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  1. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I remember that one now. He's back here IIRC. We had a case a few years back where "Bob" was killing cattle. A Marine sniper fresh home from Iraq tried to kill him. Failed three times and gave up. So an agreement was reached. The whole pack was captured and brought back here. Bob's mate saw him get trapped and decided to move the den. The secondary den was seven miles away. In one night she moved seven pups. That's 91 miles in a single night. This was the first time an entire pack of Mexican wolves had been captured and brought to safe quarters. The pups born in captivity were later released and haven't been "bad".

    The ranchers know how to keep wolves away from their livestock, methods have been tested and proven. Keeping donkeys with the cows is one way.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    The 2019 release "King Kong vs. Godzilla" may answer that question once and for all.
     
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    This would have been north of Douglas, south of Portal if the same wolf. And this was very recent, last fall or winter perhaps...?
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Yeah, sounds right.

    My biggest laugh recently comes from people who build "wolf-proof" shelters for their kids to wait on the school bus in the morning. They let them play where they will in the afternoons.
     
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    It must be unfamiliarity. Alaskans and Canadians don't give a second thought to wolves. Bears rate a second thought, wolves not so much.
     
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    One problem here in the Territory are "Camp Dogs"...Aboriginal communities keep way too many dogs and many don't look after them properly (a certain percentage do of course) - despite free vet visits and even an allowance to help with the dog's upkeep...anyway, they breed at a high rate mostly with each other but also with the local Dingo population - My own dog/dingo comes from Gunbalunya or Jabiru...and these animals aren't socialised and are hungry! A news report just this morning puts the NT as the dog bite capital of Australia...some communities are being held ransom...not walking alone and running from attacks...its sounds like something out of a movie! - Many in need of vet attention, the problem has been going for decades...Not sure what the answer is.
     
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    When I was on Africa rabies was rife. The treatment for humans was a course of injections into the stomach =not nice especially for children. Every so often the government issued a warning that a squad of armed police in open backed trucks would tour the town and shoot any dog that was not on a leash. This included animals in your own front garden. As the police were notorious for their inaccurate shooting, everyone stayed at the back of their house and away from windows. A few people were injured but luckily no fatalities while I was there. It was like the wild west!
     
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    No rabies in Australia thank the Lord...
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Lower 48ers can be stupid, even with training. A grad student was studying wolves who were raiding a bump somewhere in Alaska. He was with another grad student and as it got dark they both started back to their lodgings. Then they noticed the wolves were following them. Grad #2 just kept on walking. Grad #1 ran. The wolves ran around #2 to run down #1.

    He didn't get his Ph.D.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I used to use spray bottles filled with ammonia when I was delivering papers. The new spray guns have a "stream" option. That would have been nice. Never got bit. One guy threatened me for squirting his nasty dog. I told him I'd be back after midnight to sit his house of fire if he didn't shut up. He was smarter than he looked.
     
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    House fires are too common over here in the territory (as an act of vengeance)...and car fires too. Im not sure id like to make a stand with my spray bottle against a mob of hungry vicious dogs running at me... : ) They'd have your bottle and arm off in a jiffy...! A baseball bat on the other hand...
     
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    Kodiak, I wasn't sure what you were referring to when you started this thread so I looked Treadwell up. My God, the man was insane. I have almost no experience of the outdoors, but even I know that you should stay the hell away from bears and grizzlies in particular. I have read about their encounters with the Lewis and Clark party. Those men were familiar with other species of bear, and they didn't know why the Indians were terrified of grizzlies; then they met them and found out why. They had to riddle the damn things with heavy lead balls before they would even slow down. Treadwell should have been locked up, not allowed to run around loose and draw innocent people into his own crazed fantasies. What a sad, sick story.
     
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    I highly recommend the film "Grizzly Man (2005)", it is a documentary, which inadvertently becomes a black comedy. Treadwell would seek out and spend time with groups of bears, and he filmed it all. As you watch him do this, nothing goes through your mind other than ideas of his insanity and that it's only a matter of time before he and his female companion are killed. Spoiler alert; a bear kills him and his female companion. While I do feel bad for both people, they are architects of their own fate. To think you will be the only person in history to be immune to bear attacks due to a special connection with them is the highest level of hubris.
     
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    A survival tech told me once "Never presume that the attitude of one wild animal infers the same to all wild animals." Treadwell must have never met that guy.
     
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    I would go a step further. Never presume the attitude of one wild animal infers the attitude of the same animal on the following day.
     
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    Solid advice. If they've eaten yesterday they may not be anxious today, but tomorrow you'll be on the menu if they haven't had anything since.

    Instructor also said "if it has fur it may have rabies."

    That was a "fun" course.
     
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    Here is some erudite bear commentary from down under.

     
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    Gotta luv Ozzie Man reviews...good to see you getting into it Kodiak...
     
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    Man vs. Bear?

    Wrong.

    Dinner vs. Bear.
     
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    Love that guy!
     
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