48 Hours to go...

Wow, 100,000 your ahead of yourself there, how did you find it that high, didnt kill that many in an A-bomb strike.
Anyways, the war seems to be going well. Anyone catching CNN coverage, its great, Got reporters with the troops moving north in Iraq.

 

I don't know of that figure is correct, knigt.

But the sanctions killed around 1.500.000 people. (mostly women and kids)

 

Where did you get this number, pro Saddam web site?

 

Yeah, my friend and I were kind of amazed that for both bombings so far, the cameras show all those lights on, streetlights and everything. Maybe now-a-days things aren't quite so visual, but still, why would they do anything that even MIGHT help the enemy????

 

Yeah, my friend and I were kind of amazed that for both bombings so far, the cameras show all those lights on, streetlights and everything. Maybe now-a-days things aren't quite so visual, but still, why would they do anything that even MIGHT help the enemy???? </font>[/QUOTE]These are new and special bombs and rockets. They were made to destoy buildings and such without doing a lot of destrucion to near by buildings.

 

I would go with no 9's posting on this.....

seems from what is on the media that the electrical and water systems are interconnected. You shut the power off then you eliminate the light and water sources from functioning. Sounds feasible. High tech coalition weapons are already laser/satellite targeted like GPHS and see through smoke, and yes nothing that the Iraqi military can do is going to be able to stop these.

 

Looks like 3 missles might have hit Iran. I think Brit-US-Australia, making alot of headway, and I think another large air attack on Bagdhad is up tonight.

 

[ 22. March 2004, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: Erich ]

 

three things...

1) Seriously, where do you come up with this shit? What "disease covered" prisoners?
2) Why do you have such hatred and loathing for your own country? I don't get it, you haven't posted one thing that might be considered objective with respect to the US.

3) Why did you pick the WWII Forums? You only use the FF Zone, why not go to a site where this discussion is the focus, rather than a sideline?

 

74% of people in the U.S approve this war.

 

A very interesing site:
http://www.internationalanswer.org/


Well over a quarter of a million people demonstrated in the U.S. today against a U.S. war with Iraq. 100,000 demonstrated in Washington, 100,000 came out in San Francisco, and 50,000 people braved the driving rain in Los Angeles in massive emergency mobilizations called on short notice by the ANSWER coalition.

Even with dozens of buses making the trip to Washington from as far away as Florida, Minnesota, Iowa and Maine, demonstrations also took place in Lansing, MI; Columbus OH, Lexington, KY, Tucson, AZ; Albuquerque, NM, and scores of other cities.

With cities around the world responding to the call for emergency actions, March 15 was an urgent and critical day of global anti-war protest, as millions of people turned out to demonstrate against Washington's rush to war. CNN reported that protests took place today in an amazing 2,000 cities in 98 countries. Turnouts were dramatic: Millions marched in Spain and Italy, two countries whose governments have supported the U.S. war. 100,000 came out in Berlin; 150,000 in France; 40,000 marched in Brussels. Another 200,000 demonstrated in Sanaa, Yemen, and over 150,000 in Montreal, Quebec, 50,000 in Sao Paolo, Brazil, and 10,000 in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

According to the Associated Press, "Hundreds of thousands rallied worldwide, in some cases pressing close to the symbols of American power: the White House and the Washington Monument, the U.S. air base in Frankfurt, Germany, and U.S. embassies in Greece and Cyprus. They also took to the streets throughout Europe, Asia and the Middle East."

Thousands more turned out in Tokyo, Calcutta, Buenos Aires, New Delhi, Wellington, Frankfurt, Moscow, Turkey, Cairo, Amman, Beirut, many Palestinian cities and refugee camps, Bangkok, Seoul, Toronto and across 40 Canadian cities, Moscow and many other cities and countries -- one day after millions of European workers conducted work stoppages to protest the war. Mara Verheyden-Hilliard of the Partnership for Civil Justice-LDEF, one of the groups in the ANSWER Coalition, said, "The continued worldwide outpouring against Bush's planned war of aggression with Iraq makes it clear that Spain, Britain and the U.S. are meeting in the isolated Azores Islands because it's the only place they can go without being protested by massive numbers of people."

A highlight of the Washington demonstration was the crowd's enthusiastic response to former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark's speech about his campaign to impeach President George W. Bush for planning to fight a war of aggression against Iraq. "Vote to impeach! Vote to impeach!" chanted the crowd, referring to the website http://www.votetoimpeach.org, where people are voting in support of articles of impeachment.

The Washington demonstration surrounded the White House and Justice Department, taking up more than 20 city blocks. The crowd completely filled the 10-lane Pennsylvania Avenue, with demonstrators marching shoulder to shoulder in a turnout that surpassed rally organizers' expectations. "Bush may be determined to fight this war," said Larry Holmes of the International Action Center, also in the ANSWER Coalition, "but he was also determined to have a vote for war at the UN Security Council last week. Bush wanted this war months ago; the anti-war movement has held him back. War is not inevitable."

 

Media Ignore Patriotic Rallies That Draw Thousands

Though the media establishment has given loads of publicity to the appeasement activists, it is curiously negligent in reporting last weekend's patriotic rallies, which drew tens of thousands of people.

Type "rally for America" into the search engine of Yahoo News and this is what you get: "5,000 demonstrators curse America, Israel during Bahrain anti-war rally," "Tens of thousands condemn Bush in biggest anti-war rally seen in Egypt," etc. Not one word about the pro-U.S. demonstrations in our own country.

We tried finding pictures of the patriotic rallies at our photo services. Not one was offered, though of course there were plenty of pictures of the appeasement demonstrators. You'd think these companies would know a good pic when they see one, because the rally photos we saw posted at patriotic Web sites were dynamic and moving.

Do the national (and sometimes even local) media deem it insignificant that the Rally for America in snowy Cleveland drew 10,000 people, the Rally for America in Houston drew 10,000 people, the Rally for America in San Antonio drew 8,000 people, that thousands more patriots gathered in Oklahoma, Nashville, etc.?

If the media establishment deems these tens of thousands of patriots insignificant, why has it given so much positive attention to the ridiculous antics of a couple of hundred "human shields" in Iraq?

And when the mainstream media do a story on the pro-America rallies, they try to create a negative image. "Jackson Lee unfazed by jeers at rally," says the headline of the Houston Chronicle's coverage Sunday.

The Chronicle claims that "a raucous pro-war crowd" harassed leftist appeasement activist Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee. The poor dear was "drowned out by the crowd's chant of 'U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!' and 'Bush! Bush! Bush!'" and supposedly had to be escorted away by police for her protection.

However, Chris Baker of sponsor KPRC told NewsMax that he left with Jackson Lee and that she didn't need any police guard.

Update on More Rallies


Brunswick, Maine: "Support our Troops" rallies from 4 to 5 p.m. March 22 and every Saturday, rain or shine. Maine Street, by the gazebo.

Portsmouth, N.H.: Rally for America at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22 and every Saturday at Market Square, in front of the old church. Sponsored by Live Free or Die. "This is not a pro-war rally, no one wants war, but we want to counter the people who are actively undermining our troops' morale. Please come with appropriate signs, banners and flags."

Berlin, Conn.: Rally to Support the Troops, noon to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22 at the VFW, Massirio Road. Sponsored by FreeRepublic.com/Marine Corps League.

Duchess County, N.Y. : Pro-Troop Rally at 12:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Village of Red Hook (Four Corner intersection).

New York City: Rally in Support of Our Troops, noon Sunday, March 23, Times Square. Hotline: 917-387-8865. The city prohibits metal, wood or any solid flagpoles or sticks for signs.

Long Island: "Support the Troops, Rally for Freedom" at 2 p.m. Sunday, April 6. State Supreme Courthouse on County Seat Drive in Mineola. Sponsored by Nassau County Young Republicans.

Buffalo area: "I Love America" rally at 6 p.m. Sunday, March 23, Buffalo-Niagara Marriot Hotel Millersport Highway, just off 290. Sponsored by Freedom Village USA. "This is a free event open to everyone and anyone who wants to show support for our country and troops. This will be a peaceful rally including patriotic songs sung by our three travel singing groups and 110-voice choir. Multimedia presentations will be included. We are also asking for all veterans and enlisted military personnel to come, in uniform if possible, so they can be properly honored."

Scranton, Pa.: Rally for America at noon Saturday, March 22, Courthouse Square 200 North Washington Ave. Sponsored by scrantonrally.com. "Bring your flags, don your red, white and blue, bring your supportive signs and gather with the rest of us to show our troops, our country and the world your support."

Cranberry Township, Pa.: Support Our Troops Rally, 1:30 p.m. Sunday, March 30, Cranberry Township Municipal Center, 2525 Rochester Road.

Towanda, Pa.: Rally for America at 3 p.m. Sunday, March 23, at Bradford County Courthouse area. Plans include speeches by Congressman Sherwood and other state and local politicians, veterans, parents of soldiers, etc. Appearances tentatively scheduled: Boy and Girl Scouts, veteran groups, a band, two church choirs, etc.

Harrisburg, Pa.: Pro-American Rally at noon Saturday, March 29, steps of the state Capitol. Sponsored by WHP 580. "Come celebrate our freedom and pay tribute to those who fight for it." Speakers include: U.S. Reps. Todd Platts and Tim Holden, talk show hosts Bob Durgin and R.J. Harris, and columnist Mychal Massie.

Washington: Patriots Rally for America V, 1 p.m. Sunday, March 23. Lincoln Memorial (eastern front, facing the Washington Monument). Sponsored by D.C. Chapter of Free Republic. "Bring your American flags!"

Martinsburg, W.Va.: Rally for Our Troops at 5:15 p.m. Saturday, March 22, downtown on the Square. Promoted by the newly formed Harpers Ferry Panhandle Chapter of FreeRepublic.

Point Pleasant, W.Va.: Rally for America at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Mason County Courthouse. In conjunction with FR and YAF.

Richmond, Va.: 1140 WRVA and Glenn Beck present a Rally for America at 1 p.m. Sunday, March 23 at Innsbrook Pavilion. Gates open at noon. "Show your support for our troops and honor veterans who fought to keep us free and safe."

Raleigh, N.C.: Rally for America from noon to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22, downtown on grounds of state Capitol. Sponsored by Old North State Chapter, Free Republic Network. "Bring your flag, your family and signs. Sorry, no pets allowed."

Chapel Hill, N.C.: Celebrate America! 11 a.m. Saturday, March 22, at Community Park on Estes Drive across from the post office and University Mall. Sponsored by Republican Women's Club of Chapel Hill.

Charleston, S.C. on Saturday, March 22: See previous article for details.

LaGrange, Ga.: Prayer rally at 3:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, on the main square. Sponsored by Good Seed Homeschool Group.

Jacksonville, Fla.: Operation Support Our Troops at noon Saturday, March 29, Memorial Coliseum, in front of the Veterans Memorial Wall, adjacent to Alltel Stadium. "Lots of patriotic music, military and government officials to speak, color guards from the American Legion."

Miami area: Miami Rally in Support of the War, 1:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, intersection of U.S. 1 and S.W. 88th Street (Kendall Drive), by Dadeland Mall. "Bring flags! Bring signs!" E-mail: johnfambroseiii@yahoo.com

Brandon, Fla.: Support Our Troops rally at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Clayton Plaza, corner of SR 60 and Kings Blvd.

Sarasota, Fla.: Support Our Troops Rally For America March, noon Saturday, March 22, Rte. 41 entrance to Island Park (next to Marina Jacks Restaurant), Rte. 41 and Ringling Blvd. at the Sarasota Bayfront. Sponsored by Young Republicans and GOP Clubs of Sarasota County.

Memphis area: Stand Up for America, Support Our Troops, noon to 1:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, in Millington, Tenn., USA Stadium, 4351 Babe Howard Blvd. off Hwy. 51 North.

Louisville, Ky.: Rally for America and our troops, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22, 7111 Lower Hunters Trace. Sponsored by Millcreek VFW Post #5421.

Lansing, Mich.: Rally for America at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Capitol building. Sponsored by Free Republic Lansing Chapter.

Fort Wayne, Ind. 1190 WOWO and Glenn Beck present a Rally for America at 11 a.m. Saturday, March 22 at Kruse Auction Park in Auburn. "A celebration of this great country and those who serve the nation. Come hear patriotic music and speakers, including 1190 WOWO's Glenn Beck."

Chicago: ProUSA Anti-Terrorism Rally, 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Federal Plaza at South Dearborn and West Adams. Sponsored by Chicagoland Chapter/FRN.

Freeport, Ill.: Rally for America at noon Saturday, March 22, intersection of Empire Street and West Avenue near Freeport High School. Sponsored by Freeport Patriots/Operation Homefront.

DeKalb, Ill.: Support Our Troops Rallly at 2 p.m. Sunday, April 6, Hopkins Park Community Center, 1403 Sycamore Rd. Sponsored by Support Our Troops.

Milwaukee: Rally for America and to support our troops, noon Saturday, March 22, Cathedral Square, corner of Kilbourn and Jefferson. Sponsored by Wisconsin Chapter of Free Republic.

Duluth, Minn.: Rally for America and Her Troops, 3 p.m. Saturday, March 22, at Bayfront Festival Park.

Cedar Rapids, Iowa: Patriots are invited to rally at 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22 on First Avenue in front of City Hall on Mays Island. For more information, see www.geocities.com/crpatriots or e-mail crpatriots@hotmail.com.

Des Moines: Rally for America - Support Our Troops, 2:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, west steps of state Capitol. Sponsored by Iowa Free Republic Network.

Jefferson City, Mo.: Support Our Troops Rally at noon Saturday, March 22, Capitol building's south lawn, moved inside in case of rain. Sponsored by Eagle 93.9 and Missouri Veterans Council.

Dallas: A Love America Pro-Military Rally is planned for 3 p.m. Saturday, March 22 downtown at "Old Red" Courthouse Building and JFK Memorial. Scheduled to attend: congressmen, state senators and representatives, judges, city and county officials, ministers, sports figures, military personnel and hundreds of Texas Kurds.

Austin: A Rally for America will be at 3 p.m. Sunday, March 30 on the south steps of the Texas Capitol.

Corpus Christi: Support our Troops Rally, 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Sherrill Park downtown. Sponsored by Corpus Christi Mayor's Comm. for Veterans' Affairs.

Lockhart, Texas: Rally for America at noon Friday, March 28, Caldwell County Courthouse.

Denver: Support our troops, 2:30 p.m. Sunday, March 23 at west steps of state Capitol. "March 2 blocks to British Trade Mission to deliver our message of thanks." Sponsored by Americans Against Terrorism.

Colorado: Support Our Troops rallies March 29 and every Saturday. Fort Collins (VFW): noon to 1 p.m. at northeast corner of Loveland (FreeRepublic): 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. at southeast corner of Taft and Eisenhower (U.S. 34). Longmont (FreeRepublic): 2 to 3 p.m. at southeast corner of 6th and Main. Greeley (FreeRepublic): 11 a.m. to noon, corner of U.S. 34 and 35th Avenue.

Cheyenne, Wyo.: Support Our Troops Rally, 2 p.m. Sunday, March 23 outstide F.E. Warrem Air Force Base, intersection of Randall Ave., Pershing Blvd. and I-25. Sponsored by Trteamer.

Provo and Salt Lake City: The Utah Coalition of the Willing is planning two events. From noon to 4 p.m. Saturday, March 29, meet in front of the new Provo Library on University Avenue.
Particpants encouraged to dress in patriotic clothing, bring flags and a donation of one or more of the following items (please tape personal note of appreciation to the item(s) you bring): A package of AA batteries (deployed soldiers can't get batteries for their personal radios to listen while off duty), an international calling card (so they can call home to their families), a paperback book (Orson-Scott-Card type novels seem to be very popular with the troops).

Second Event: Operation Yellow Ribbon, 2 p.m. Saturday, April 12 on the grounds of Utah's state Capitol. Please wear yellow. "The thousands of citizens, veterans and dignitaries who wish to reiterate 'Thank You' and 'We Are Here For You' will be at hand in a manner never yet attempted," the organizers say.


Reno, Nev.: Rally for America/Liberty Weekend, noon Saturday, March 22, downtown at 1st and Arlington Wingfield Park.

Tucson, Ariz.: Support America/Support Our Troops Rally, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 29, Reid Park band shell (second entrance north of 22nd on Country Club Dr.). Sponsored by Support America/Support Our Troops.

Long Beach, Calif.: Rally and candlelight prayer at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday, March 19, Heartwell Park, 2.5 miles west of 605 Fwy., exit Carson, located on Carson at Clark). Look for support bus. "Please join us to support our troops, country and president. Bring a candle for a candlelight prayer."
Also, 1 to 4 p.m. Sunday, April 6 at Heartwell Park. "Bring the family, a picnic lunch and maybe some baseball gear. Last one was great. Rumor has it we're getting 500 free hot dogs to give away ... Let's hope." E-mail: info@proudamericans.org.


Fresno, Calif.: A Rally for America to show support for President Bush and the troops is planned for noon Friday, March 21 at the Free Speech Area, Fresno State University. Scheduled speakers include Reps. George Radanovich and Devin Nunes, Assemblymen Bill Maze and Dave Cogdill, and the Rev. Gaylen Cantrell.

Bandon, Ore.: Stand for America, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22, in front of Bandon City Hall.

Spokane, Wash.: Stand up for America- Rally to Support Our Troops, 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Franklin Park on N. Division, across from Franklin Park Mall.

Kennewick, Wash.: Rally for America, noon Saturday, March 22, in front of Columbia Center lining both sides of Columbia Center Blvd., from Quinault Ave. to overpass. Just off Highway 240.

Bellevue, Wash.: Rally for America at 11 a.m. Saturday, March 22. Sponsored by Puget Sound Chapter Free Republic. Directions: From I-90, take the Bellevue Way exit and head north on Bellevue Way until you reach Northeast 4th.

Seattle area: Rally for the troops at noon Saturday, March 22 in downtown Seattle at Westlake Center near the water fountain. "Bring signs, flags banners and wear patriotic colors."
Also: Rally in Lynwood, Wash., every Friday 4 p.m. to dark, weather permitting, at 196th and Alderwood Mall Parkway.

Also: Rally at Camp Murray, south of Tacoma, at noon every Sunday. Directions: Madigan Hospital/Camp Murray exit (Exit 122) off I-5. The exit sign says Berkley Street. At the end of the exit ramp, take a right and go over railroad tracks. The gates to Camp Murray will be on the left.

Also: Rally in Cashmere, Wash., at 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22 in Riverside Park. "We will walk down Cottage Ave to the intersection of Hwy. 2 and Cotlet Way and wave our flags by the highway."

Also: A "Support Your Troops Rally" will be held in Burlington, Wash., (Skagit County), from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 29, at the intersection of Hwy. 20 and Burlington Blvd. in Burlington. Exit 231 from I-5 (Burlington, Sedro-Woolley, Cascade Pass exit). Go east. Rally is at the first intersection.

Also: "Support Our Troops Rally" 4:30 to 6 p.m. Tuesday, April 1 at 228th and Bothell Everett Highway (Canyon Park). "Please bring a friend, flag, and/or sign to show your support of our troops and President."

Also: Rally in Arlington, Wash., from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Saturday, April 26 at Smokey Point, 172nd and Smokey Point Blvd. Directions: Northbound I-5, take Exit 206 Lakewood Smokey Point. Take a right on 172nd heading east. Southbound I-5, take Exit 206 Lakewood Smokey Point. Take a left on 172nd heading east.


Olympia, Wash: Veterans organizations are putting together a Support Our Troops Rally at noon Saturday, March 22 on the West Capitol Campus in Olympia. Parking is available a few blocks from the Capitol, at Washington State Employees Credit Union at the corner of Union and Jefferson, and at the lot at Union and Cherry.

Ketchikan, Alaska: Support Our Troops, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22. Sponsored by Veterans of Foreign Wars Post #4352. "We will march from the American Legion downtown to the VFW on the west end of town."

Anchorage, Alaska: Support Rally for Troops and Our President, 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Anchorage Park Strip at the Veterans Memorial.