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  1. Friedrich

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    Nice City, isn't it? :rolleyes:

    Vyacheslav: José María Aznar is not Spain's prime minister. He is the president of the Spanish goverment.
     
  2. De Vlaamse Leeuw

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    A scud itself istn't a WMD. It becomes one if its filled with biological, chemical or nuclear material.

    But the two scuds fired towards Kuweit, weren't WMD's
     
  3. VYACHESLAV

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    A. The pictures and info is from Yahoo News

    B. U.N told Iraq that they are not allowed to own scuds.
     
  4. VYACHESLAV

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    Posted Sunday, March 23, 2003, 10:00 AM EST
    Poll: British Now Support Blair

    Support for war in Iraq has turned around sharply, a new poll for the London Times reveals. It shows that 56 percent of people now think America and Britain are right to take military action, with 36 percent opposed.


    This is a mirror image of the position before the war, when a similar YouGov poll showed 36 percent backing for military action and 57 percent opposed.


    Support for the war is stronger among men than women, but is shared across all age groups. Labour and Conservative supporters back the war by two to one. Only Liberal Democrat supporters are opposed, in line with their party’s official position.


    The war is also seen as being of benefit to the world. By 45 pecent to 35 percent, people believe it will make the world a safer place.


    The expectation is that the war itself will be short. More than two-thirds, 70 percent, say it will be a brief campaign, although 39 percent think there will be heavy casualties.


    Tony Blair’s conduct of the crisis is gaining support, following initial public opposition. More than a third, 36 percent, say their admiration for the prime minister has increased because of the way he has handled the Iraq crisis in recent weeks, against 29 percent who say their respect has diminished.


    The Need for War


    Most of those surveyed, 59 percent, say they saw the prime minister’s address to the nation on Thursday evening, when he set out his reasons for going to war. By three to one, 27 percent to 8 percent, people said they were more convinced of the need for war by the broadcast, with the rest unmoved by it.


    People are also unhappy about the wave of protests by schoolchildren in the past few days. Fewer than a quarter, 24 percent, believe pupils have a right to protest at any time. Nearly two-thirds, 63 percent, think teachers should have kept the children in school.


    The political threat to Blair appears to be fading, with little enthusiasm for any of his potential successors in the cabinet. Gordon Brown tops the list, with 24 percent support in the event of Blair stepping down, followed by Robin Cook, 9 percent, Jack Straw, 7 percent, and David Blunkett, 6 percent. Most favoured none of the prime minister’s likely replacements as leader.


    Blair is seen as more sincere than George Bush over rebuilding Iraq and pursuing the Israel-Palestine peace process. By 72 percent to 19 percent, people say he is sincere about reconstructing Iraq for its people, against 51 percent to 35 percent for the U.S. president. On finding a solution to the Israel-Palestine problem, people say by 68 percent to 18 percent that Blair will push for peace, compared with 41 percent to 39 percent who think Bush will.


    Asked whether Bush will pursue war against other countries such as North Korea after Iraq, most people think he will. By nearly two to one, 53 percent to 27 percent, they predict the U.S. will target other nations believed to pose a threat.
    http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/3/23/100201
     
  5. VYACHESLAV

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    Chicago Tribune Admits Patriotic Rallies Bigger Than Appeasement Protests

    From the establishment media's astonishing lack of coverage of the patriotic rallies and obsessive devotion to the appeasement demonstrations, you can't prove whether they're biased or just inexcusably ignorant. Now the Chicago Tribune has inadvertantly admitted they do know what's going on but just don't feel like covering the news.

    "Some of the biggest rallies this month have endorsed President Bush's strategy against Saddam Hussein, and the common thread linking most of them is Clear Channel Worldwide Inc., the nation's largest owner of radio stations," the Tribune complained Thursday.

    "In a move that has raised eyebrows in some legal and journalistic circles, Clear Channel radio stations in Atlanta, Cleveland, San Antonio, Cincinnati and other cities have sponsored rallies attended by up to 20,000 people. The events have served as a loud rebuttal to the more numerous but generally smaller anti-war rallies."

    Check out what's going on here. The only reason the Tribune can stomach admitting the popularity of the patriotic gatherings is to criticize Clear Channel. Otherwise there'd be no mention that the pro-U.S. rallies of up to 20,000 people dwarfed the smaller appeasement demonstrations.

    And why does the Tribune fail to raise its eyebrows over who's backing the appeasement rallies? After NewsMax helped break the story of the movement's Marxist backers, Fox News Channel confirmed this with its own report. Why won't the Tribune, New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc. admit this reality?
    http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/3/21/104942
     
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    Media Ignore Patriotic Rallies That Draw Thousands

    Though the media establishment has given loads of publicity to the appeasement activists, it is curiously negligent in reporting last weekend's patriotic rallies, which drew tens of thousands of people.

    Type "rally for America" into the search engine of Yahoo News and this is what you get: "5,000 demonstrators curse America, Israel during Bahrain anti-war rally," "Tens of thousands condemn Bush in biggest anti-war rally seen in Egypt," etc. Not one word about the pro-U.S. demonstrations in our own country.

    We tried finding pictures of the patriotic rallies at our photo services. Not one was offered, though of course there were plenty of pictures of the appeasement demonstrators. You'd think these companies would know a good pic when they see one, because the rally photos we saw posted at patriotic Web sites were dynamic and moving.

    Do the national (and sometimes even local) media deem it insignificant that the Rally for America in snowy Cleveland drew 10,000 people, the Rally for America in Houston drew 10,000 people, the Rally for America in San Antonio drew 8,000 people, that thousands more patriots gathered in Oklahoma, Nashville, etc.?

    If the media establishment deems these tens of thousands of patriots insignificant, why has it given so much positive attention to the ridiculous antics of a couple of hundred "human shields" in Iraq?

    And when the mainstream media do a story on the pro-America rallies, they try to create a negative image. "Jackson Lee unfazed by jeers at rally," says the headline of the Houston Chronicle's coverage Sunday.

    The Chronicle claims that "a raucous pro-war crowd" harassed leftist appeasement activist Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee. The poor dear was "drowned out by the crowd's chant of 'U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!' and 'Bush! Bush! Bush!'" and supposedly had to be escorted away by police for her protection.

    However, Chris Baker of sponsor KPRC told NewsMax that he left with Jackson Lee and that she didn't need any police guard.

    Update on More Rallies


    Brunswick, Maine: "Support our Troops" rallies from 4 to 5 p.m. March 22 and every Saturday, rain or shine. Maine Street, by the gazebo.

    Portsmouth, N.H.: Rally for America at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22 and every Saturday at Market Square, in front of the old church. Sponsored by Live Free or Die. "This is not a pro-war rally, no one wants war, but we want to counter the people who are actively undermining our troops' morale. Please come with appropriate signs, banners and flags."

    Berlin, Conn.: Rally to Support the Troops, noon to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22 at the VFW, Massirio Road. Sponsored by FreeRepublic.com/Marine Corps League.

    Duchess County, N.Y. : Pro-Troop Rally at 12:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Village of Red Hook (Four Corner intersection).

    New York City: Rally in Support of Our Troops, noon Sunday, March 23, Times Square. Hotline: 917-387-8865. The city prohibits metal, wood or any solid flagpoles or sticks for signs.

    Long Island: "Support the Troops, Rally for Freedom" at 2 p.m. Sunday, April 6. State Supreme Courthouse on County Seat Drive in Mineola. Sponsored by Nassau County Young Republicans.

    Buffalo area: "I Love America" rally at 6 p.m. Sunday, March 23, Buffalo-Niagara Marriot Hotel Millersport Highway, just off 290. Sponsored by Freedom Village USA. "This is a free event open to everyone and anyone who wants to show support for our country and troops. This will be a peaceful rally including patriotic songs sung by our three travel singing groups and 110-voice choir. Multimedia presentations will be included. We are also asking for all veterans and enlisted military personnel to come, in uniform if possible, so they can be properly honored."

    Scranton, Pa.: Rally for America at noon Saturday, March 22, Courthouse Square 200 North Washington Ave. Sponsored by scrantonrally.com. "Bring your flags, don your red, white and blue, bring your supportive signs and gather with the rest of us to show our troops, our country and the world your support."

    Cranberry Township, Pa.: Support Our Troops Rally, 1:30 p.m. Sunday, March 30, Cranberry Township Municipal Center, 2525 Rochester Road.

    Towanda, Pa.: Rally for America at 3 p.m. Sunday, March 23, at Bradford County Courthouse area. Plans include speeches by Congressman Sherwood and other state and local politicians, veterans, parents of soldiers, etc. Appearances tentatively scheduled: Boy and Girl Scouts, veteran groups, a band, two church choirs, etc.

    Harrisburg, Pa.: Pro-American Rally at noon Saturday, March 29, steps of the state Capitol. Sponsored by WHP 580. "Come celebrate our freedom and pay tribute to those who fight for it." Speakers include: U.S. Reps. Todd Platts and Tim Holden, talk show hosts Bob Durgin and R.J. Harris, and columnist Mychal Massie.

    Washington: Patriots Rally for America V, 1 p.m. Sunday, March 23. Lincoln Memorial (eastern front, facing the Washington Monument). Sponsored by D.C. Chapter of Free Republic. "Bring your American flags!"

    Martinsburg, W.Va.: Rally for Our Troops at 5:15 p.m. Saturday, March 22, downtown on the Square. Promoted by the newly formed Harpers Ferry Panhandle Chapter of FreeRepublic.

    Point Pleasant, W.Va.: Rally for America at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Mason County Courthouse. In conjunction with FR and YAF.

    Richmond, Va.: 1140 WRVA and Glenn Beck present a Rally for America at 1 p.m. Sunday, March 23 at Innsbrook Pavilion. Gates open at noon. "Show your support for our troops and honor veterans who fought to keep us free and safe."

    Raleigh, N.C.: Rally for America from noon to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22, downtown on grounds of state Capitol. Sponsored by Old North State Chapter, Free Republic Network. "Bring your flag, your family and signs. Sorry, no pets allowed."

    Chapel Hill, N.C.: Celebrate America! 11 a.m. Saturday, March 22, at Community Park on Estes Drive across from the post office and University Mall. Sponsored by Republican Women's Club of Chapel Hill.

    Charleston, S.C. on Saturday, March 22: See previous article for details.

    LaGrange, Ga.: Prayer rally at 3:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, on the main square. Sponsored by Good Seed Homeschool Group.

    Jacksonville, Fla.: Operation Support Our Troops at noon Saturday, March 29, Memorial Coliseum, in front of the Veterans Memorial Wall, adjacent to Alltel Stadium. "Lots of patriotic music, military and government officials to speak, color guards from the American Legion."

    Miami area: Miami Rally in Support of the War, 1:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, intersection of U.S. 1 and S.W. 88th Street (Kendall Drive), by Dadeland Mall. "Bring flags! Bring signs!" E-mail: johnfambroseiii@yahoo.com

    Brandon, Fla.: Support Our Troops rally at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Clayton Plaza, corner of SR 60 and Kings Blvd.

    Sarasota, Fla.: Support Our Troops Rally For America March, noon Saturday, March 22, Rte. 41 entrance to Island Park (next to Marina Jacks Restaurant), Rte. 41 and Ringling Blvd. at the Sarasota Bayfront. Sponsored by Young Republicans and GOP Clubs of Sarasota County.

    Memphis area: Stand Up for America, Support Our Troops, noon to 1:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, in Millington, Tenn., USA Stadium, 4351 Babe Howard Blvd. off Hwy. 51 North.

    Louisville, Ky.: Rally for America and our troops, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22, 7111 Lower Hunters Trace. Sponsored by Millcreek VFW Post #5421.

    Lansing, Mich.: Rally for America at 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Capitol building. Sponsored by Free Republic Lansing Chapter.

    Fort Wayne, Ind. 1190 WOWO and Glenn Beck present a Rally for America at 11 a.m. Saturday, March 22 at Kruse Auction Park in Auburn. "A celebration of this great country and those who serve the nation. Come hear patriotic music and speakers, including 1190 WOWO's Glenn Beck."

    Chicago: ProUSA Anti-Terrorism Rally, 11:30 a.m. to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Federal Plaza at South Dearborn and West Adams. Sponsored by Chicagoland Chapter/FRN.

    Freeport, Ill.: Rally for America at noon Saturday, March 22, intersection of Empire Street and West Avenue near Freeport High School. Sponsored by Freeport Patriots/Operation Homefront.

    DeKalb, Ill.: Support Our Troops Rallly at 2 p.m. Sunday, April 6, Hopkins Park Community Center, 1403 Sycamore Rd. Sponsored by Support Our Troops.

    Milwaukee: Rally for America and to support our troops, noon Saturday, March 22, Cathedral Square, corner of Kilbourn and Jefferson. Sponsored by Wisconsin Chapter of Free Republic.

    Duluth, Minn.: Rally for America and Her Troops, 3 p.m. Saturday, March 22, at Bayfront Festival Park.

    Cedar Rapids, Iowa: Patriots are invited to rally at 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22 on First Avenue in front of City Hall on Mays Island. For more information, see www.geocities.com/crpatriots or e-mail crpatriots@hotmail.com.

    Des Moines: Rally for America - Support Our Troops, 2:30 p.m. Saturday, March 22, west steps of state Capitol. Sponsored by Iowa Free Republic Network.

    Jefferson City, Mo.: Support Our Troops Rally at noon Saturday, March 22, Capitol building's south lawn, moved inside in case of rain. Sponsored by Eagle 93.9 and Missouri Veterans Council.

    Dallas: A Love America Pro-Military Rally is planned for 3 p.m. Saturday, March 22 downtown at "Old Red" Courthouse Building and JFK Memorial. Scheduled to attend: congressmen, state senators and representatives, judges, city and county officials, ministers, sports figures, military personnel and hundreds of Texas Kurds.

    Austin: A Rally for America will be at 3 p.m. Sunday, March 30 on the south steps of the Texas Capitol.

    Corpus Christi: Support our Troops Rally, 2 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Sherrill Park downtown. Sponsored by Corpus Christi Mayor's Comm. for Veterans' Affairs.

    Lockhart, Texas: Rally for America at noon Friday, March 28, Caldwell County Courthouse.

    Denver: Support our troops, 2:30 p.m. Sunday, March 23 at west steps of state Capitol. "March 2 blocks to British Trade Mission to deliver our message of thanks." Sponsored by Americans Against Terrorism.

    Colorado: Support Our Troops rallies March 29 and every Saturday. Fort Collins (VFW): noon to 1 p.m. at northeast corner of Loveland (FreeRepublic): 1:30 to 2:30 p.m. at southeast corner of Taft and Eisenhower (U.S. 34). Longmont (FreeRepublic): 2 to 3 p.m. at southeast corner of 6th and Main. Greeley (FreeRepublic): 11 a.m. to noon, corner of U.S. 34 and 35th Avenue.

    Cheyenne, Wyo.: Support Our Troops Rally, 2 p.m. Sunday, March 23 outstide F.E. Warrem Air Force Base, intersection of Randall Ave., Pershing Blvd. and I-25. Sponsored by Trteamer.

    Provo and Salt Lake City: The Utah Coalition of the Willing is planning two events. From noon to 4 p.m. Saturday, March 29, meet in front of the new Provo Library on University Avenue.
    Particpants encouraged to dress in patriotic clothing, bring flags and a donation of one or more of the following items (please tape personal note of appreciation to the item(s) you bring): A package of AA batteries (deployed soldiers can't get batteries for their personal radios to listen while off duty), an international calling card (so they can call home to their families), a paperback book (Orson-Scott-Card type novels seem to be very popular with the troops).

    Second Event: Operation Yellow Ribbon, 2 p.m. Saturday, April 12 on the grounds of Utah's state Capitol. Please wear yellow. "The thousands of citizens, veterans and dignitaries who wish to reiterate 'Thank You' and 'We Are Here For You' will be at hand in a manner never yet attempted," the organizers say.


    Reno, Nev.: Rally for America/Liberty Weekend, noon Saturday, March 22, downtown at 1st and Arlington Wingfield Park.

    Tucson, Ariz.: Support America/Support Our Troops Rally, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 29, Reid Park band shell (second entrance north of 22nd on Country Club Dr.). Sponsored by Support America/Support Our Troops.

    Long Beach, Calif.: Rally and candlelight prayer at 5:30 p.m. Wednesday, March 19, Heartwell Park, 2.5 miles west of 605 Fwy., exit Carson, located on Carson at Clark). Look for support bus. "Please join us to support our troops, country and president. Bring a candle for a candlelight prayer."
    Also, 1 to 4 p.m. Sunday, April 6 at Heartwell Park. "Bring the family, a picnic lunch and maybe some baseball gear. Last one was great. Rumor has it we're getting 500 free hot dogs to give away ... Let's hope." E-mail: info@proudamericans.org.


    Fresno, Calif.: A Rally for America to show support for President Bush and the troops is planned for noon Friday, March 21 at the Free Speech Area, Fresno State University. Scheduled speakers include Reps. George Radanovich and Devin Nunes, Assemblymen Bill Maze and Dave Cogdill, and the Rev. Gaylen Cantrell.

    Bandon, Ore.: Stand for America, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22, in front of Bandon City Hall.

    Spokane, Wash.: Stand up for America- Rally to Support Our Troops, 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Franklin Park on N. Division, across from Franklin Park Mall.

    Kennewick, Wash.: Rally for America, noon Saturday, March 22, in front of Columbia Center lining both sides of Columbia Center Blvd., from Quinault Ave. to overpass. Just off Highway 240.

    Bellevue, Wash.: Rally for America at 11 a.m. Saturday, March 22. Sponsored by Puget Sound Chapter Free Republic. Directions: From I-90, take the Bellevue Way exit and head north on Bellevue Way until you reach Northeast 4th.

    Seattle area: Rally for the troops at noon Saturday, March 22 in downtown Seattle at Westlake Center near the water fountain. "Bring signs, flags banners and wear patriotic colors."
    Also: Rally in Lynwood, Wash., every Friday 4 p.m. to dark, weather permitting, at 196th and Alderwood Mall Parkway.

    Also: Rally at Camp Murray, south of Tacoma, at noon every Sunday. Directions: Madigan Hospital/Camp Murray exit (Exit 122) off I-5. The exit sign says Berkley Street. At the end of the exit ramp, take a right and go over railroad tracks. The gates to Camp Murray will be on the left.

    Also: Rally in Cashmere, Wash., at 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22 in Riverside Park. "We will walk down Cottage Ave to the intersection of Hwy. 2 and Cotlet Way and wave our flags by the highway."

    Also: A "Support Your Troops Rally" will be held in Burlington, Wash., (Skagit County), from 11 a.m. to 2 p.m. Saturday, March 29, at the intersection of Hwy. 20 and Burlington Blvd. in Burlington. Exit 231 from I-5 (Burlington, Sedro-Woolley, Cascade Pass exit). Go east. Rally is at the first intersection.

    Also: "Support Our Troops Rally" 4:30 to 6 p.m. Tuesday, April 1 at 228th and Bothell Everett Highway (Canyon Park). "Please bring a friend, flag, and/or sign to show your support of our troops and President."

    Also: Rally in Arlington, Wash., from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. Saturday, April 26 at Smokey Point, 172nd and Smokey Point Blvd. Directions: Northbound I-5, take Exit 206 Lakewood Smokey Point. Take a right on 172nd heading east. Southbound I-5, take Exit 206 Lakewood Smokey Point. Take a left on 172nd heading east.


    Olympia, Wash: Veterans organizations are putting together a Support Our Troops Rally at noon Saturday, March 22 on the West Capitol Campus in Olympia. Parking is available a few blocks from the Capitol, at Washington State Employees Credit Union at the corner of Union and Jefferson, and at the lot at Union and Cherry.

    Ketchikan, Alaska: Support Our Troops, 10 a.m. Saturday, March 22. Sponsored by Veterans of Foreign Wars Post #4352. "We will march from the American Legion downtown to the VFW on the west end of town."

    Anchorage, Alaska: Support Rally for Troops and Our President, 1 p.m. Saturday, March 22, Anchorage Park Strip at the Veterans Memorial.
     
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    NYC's Top Cop Slams Peace Protesters

    As angry demonstrators clogged streets and shut down highways and bridges in New York, Chicago and San Francisco on Thursday, New York City Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said that this generation of antiwar protesters has become particularly vicious.

    "There is a hard core group.... who are particularly nasty," Commissioner Kelly told WOR Radio's Bob Grant. "I've noticed this and I've been around a long time. It's kind of like the Vietnam war protests."

    Kelly complained that the anti-Iraq war protesters had engaged in acts like "spitting on police officers, cursing at them, trying to instigate them." He added, "It really is a disgrace for people that supposedly want peace."

    "There are police officers who are out there trying to do their job, trying to protect people's liberties and rights to voice their opinions," New York's top cop explained. He might have also noted that New York's finest sacrificed 23 hero cops in the 9/11 attacks.

    He said his police force had shown "tremendous restraint" in dealing with the hostile peaceniks. Still, "there is this hard core group of demonstrators (and) they're there to cause problems," Kelly told Grant.
     
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    Congress Mulls Probe of Communists' Ties to Appeasement Movement, Radical Islam
    Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
    Friday, Feb. 28, 2003
    See part one of series, "Useful Idiots: Marxists Exploit the Appeasement Movement." Part two: 'Hate-America Leftists' Lead the Appeasement Movement.
    WASHINGTON – NewsMax.com has learned that preliminary inquiries are or soon will be under way on Capitol Hill exploring the possibility of investigating the link between communists and radical Islamic terrorists. Evidence mounts that this coalition orchestrated the recent appeasement demonstrations against President Bush’s policy in Iraq.

    No decisions have been made on whether such a probe will go forward or what committee would be in charge. But conservatives who have seen documented evidence of that link believe now that the GOP controls the House and Senate, there is no excuse for not holding hearings.

    A full-scale Senate or House probe is viewed as a means of informing an American public that is kept in the dark by a mainstream media that looks the other way on the hard-left/terrorist alliance.

    The biggest question mark is whether the Justice Department, the FBI or other security agencies are paying much attention to the veteran hard-left groups backing the appeasement demonstrations. The fear is these agencies are inadequate because much of their investigative authority was defanged in the 1970s.

    The post-Watergate congressional hearings by the Church and Pike committees on Capitol Hill resulted in tarnishing the CIA, FBI and other intelligence entities. That in turn prompted the legislative and executive branches of government to tie their hands. They were even forbidden to keep a file of information readily available to any citizen, such as newspaper clippings on subversive organizations.

    Some of the restrictions were lifted after 9/11. For example, now they can clip newspaper stories. Still, the new policies fall short of what is needed, according to security experts talking with NewsMax.com.

    The rules “were not changed enough to let the FBI do the kind of work that needs to be done watching these groups,” former congressional and executive branch security official Herbert Romerstein tells us.

    When those seven men were caught breaking and entering at the Watergate Hotel in June 1972, little did anyone suspect they had set off a chain of events that years later would cripple America’s ability to protect itself at a time when this nation is under a greater threat than at any time in the memory of most citizens.

    On the other hand, well-placed sources in the government have told NewsMax that “someday someone is going to write a book” about all the behind-the-scenes security efforts to protect America since 9/11.

    All very assuring, and Attorney General John Askcroft’s efforts to put accused terrorists in the slammer are widely applauded. But it is not known whether the Justice Department, the FBI or any national security, intelligence, or law enforcement agency has focused specifically on the terorrist-communist connection. NewsMax has found no one in government who claims to know one way or the other.

    Workers World Party, a tiny Marxist organization that admires North Korea's repressive dictatorship, has coordinated much of the anti-war activity, partly through such fronts as A.N.S.W.E.R. (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism), which uses former LBJ Attorney General Ramsey Clark as its public face.

    Another key player is United Justice for Peace. Leftist-turned-conservative David Horowitz has identified its leader Leslie Cagan as “a '60s Stalinist.”

    In a syndicated column just this week, Mona Charen, author of the timely book “Useful Idiots,” defined A.N.S.W.E.R. as “explicitly communist.” If a journalist can make that identification, observers are asking, what is Congress waiting for? Let’s get this on the record for the American people.

    If you read Hitler’s “Mein Kampf,” Horowitz warns, you see “how kooky views can result in the deaths of seventy million people.” Just because the leaders of the appeasement demonstrations don’t make sense “doesn’t mean they are not [dangerous or that they will not] get hundreds of thousands and millions of followers.”

    Any Capitol Hill investigation of the hard-left/Islamic terrorist alliance would require a committee chairman and Republican committee members who will stand their ground, because some Democrats on the panel are likely to try to torpedo any meaningful inquiry. That is because, as Horowitz explains to NewsMax, “the Democratic Party is deeply infiltrated and also dependent on these people.”

    The “Leslie Cagans of the world” have been organizing at the local level, he adds.

    Finally this warning from a man who has viewed the hard left from the inside: “I guess my greatest concern is the complacency of conservatives who think we can’t lose this country. We can.”


    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/27/134002.shtml
     
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    Rally for America in Ohio, Texas, D.C., Missouri, Tennessee, Oregon, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania ...

    Want to give Martin Sheen and the Marxist-infiltrated appeasement movement a foot-stomping hissy fit? Attend a Rally for America!

    Syndicated radio host Glenn Beck has organized two patriotic gatherings to show support for America's men and women in uniform.

    The one in Cleveland is planned for noon Sunday at Nautica Flats. It had been scheduled at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but that joint censored the rally after pressure from big-shot peaceniks, according to Beck.

    Todd Mesek, director of marketing and communications for the rock museum, fretted to the Cleveland Plain Dealer that "the event was starting to take on political undertones" in supporting war with Iraq, and "it's just not our policy to take a position on either side of a political issue."

    Sorry, that won't cut it. Beck noted that the event "is not a pro-war rally. This is a pro-troops rally."


    In Texas, there will be a patriotic rally at 11 a.m. Saturday at San Antonio's Verizon Wireless Amphitheater.

    If we hear of more, we'll add them here.

    Update: Faithful readers have sent us in news of more pro-America events.


    Columbia, Mo.: Meet at 6 p.m. Thursday at the county courthouse.

    Nashville: Tennesseans are welcome to attend a "Let Feedom Ring" Rally at 6 p.m. Friday in Centennial Park.
    Radio host Phil Valentine, who will broadcast live at the site from 3 to 6, says on his Web site: "We may not all agree with everything our government does. But during this time of imminent war with Iraq, we need to speak with one voice. We support our armed forces and trust in the knowledge and wisdom of our leaders to do the right thing."


    Washington: The D.C. Chapter of Free Republic plans the Patriots Rally for America IV from 11 a.m. to 3 p.m Saturday at the outdoor Sylvan Theater on the grounds of the Washington Monument.

    Racine, Wis.: A "Support Our Troops Rally" will be held every Saturday starting at 10 a.m. at the southeast corner of Washington Avenue (Highway 20) and Green Bay Road (Highway 31).
    "If possible, please bring a 3'X 5' American flag/pole to counter the anti-American, leftist peaceniks who will also be there displaying their Iraqi and U.N. flags. Bring signs and banners proclaiming support for God, our country, our president, and especially, our troops. Dress warm, and bring a carload of Patriot Americans with you," urges our tipster, Ron Vandenboom.


    Oklahoma City: KTOK and Clear Channel Radio have announced a Rally for America in support of U.S. troops from 5:30 to 7 p.m. Monday at 50 Penn Place. Guest speakers include Oklahoma Secretary of Veterans Affairs Norman Lamb and retired Tinker Air Force Base Cmdr. Gen. Richard Burpee.
    A Clear Channel veep, L.J. Smith, encouraged those attending to bring their flags and sign a billboard, "America's largest postcard," to show support for those in uniform. "Posters in support of the troops are also welcome," said Smith.

    "This is a rally in support of our troops and their families," said Smith. "It is not a pro-war rally. It is a rally to demonstrate to our soldiers, sailors and airmen that here in the Heartland, we appreciate their service to our nation."


    Tulsa: In Oklahoma's other major city, KFAQ is sponsoring a Pro America Rally from 1 to 3 p.m. Sunday at Memorial Stadium, LaFortune Park.

    Bend, Ore.: A pro-U.S. rally is scheduled at 1:30 p.m. Sunday at the corner of Greenwood and Highway 97. On March 8, the following Saturday, the VFW has planned a rally at Bend Mountain View Mall on North Highway 97.

    Harrisburg, Pa.: Chris Gromlowicz of Etters, Pa., writes that talk show host R.J. Harris of WHP 580 has announced a rally for March 29, high noon, at the steps of the state Capitol. Harris "held one in dead of winter January 1991 for the troops in the Persian Gulf ... 6,000 attended and news footage was sent overseas to our troops ... talk about a morale booster!"

    Houston: Talk radio does it again. KPRC is supporting a Rally for America from noon to 2 p.m. Saturday in Jones Plaza downtown.
    Writes one of the many readers who sent us this tip: "We down here in Houston are tired of liberal idiots in office that don't represent what America stands for. In fact, Houston's own City Council is bumbling around with some sort of stupid resolution against the war, when they should instead be worrying about the city's deficit, infrastructure, and failing school district! Glad ya'll are here for me to voice my opinion."

    Well, why should Martin Sheen and Janeane Garofalo be the only ones allowed to express themselves?
     
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    Useful Idiots: Marxists Exploit the Appeasement Movement
    Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
    Wednesday, Feb. 26, 2003
    WASHINGTON – Longtime communist supporters in the United States are rallying behind post-9/11 jihadists who want to kill Americans. Security experts have told NewsMax.com that longtime leftist America-haters are deeply involved in organizing the appeasement demonstrations against war with Iraq.
    The mainstream media, which fawned over these demonstrations, painted a picture of Main Street America trying to send a grassroots message to President Bush. But they did not connect any of the dots tracing their control and organization to tiny but influential Marxist organizations.

    Why would old communist supporters back Islamist extremists?

    David Horowitz, author of the new book “The Hate America Left,” says hard-line leftists doing the bidding of fanatical Islamic fundamentalists “don’t have a plan beyond destruction.”

    Longtime security official Herbert Romerstein agrees.

    The pro-Marxist group “that really started the demonstrations and controlled the demonstrations that took place in Washington in the last year or so is a group called the Workers World Party, which is ideologically in support of the North Korean government,” he told NewsMax.

    He says the group’s plan of “destruction,” to which Horowitz alluded, fits hand in glove with North Korea’s “creating provocations to get our attention off Iraq” and “are very happy that these people are in the United States organizing demonstrations in support of Iraq.”

    Romertstein has been watching Workers World Party for years going back to his days as a top staffer for the House Internal Security Committee (the renamed House Committee on Un American Activities). In 1974, the year before congressional left-wingers put it out of business, that committee issued a report, based largely on Romerstein’s investigations, exposing in detail WWP, citing names and dates of its pro-North-Korea drive.

    In his NewsMax interview, he said it was “a little bit bizarre that anybody should pay attention to the lunatics ... constantly making pilgrimages to Pyongyang to lay flowers at the grave of [the late dictator] Kim Il Sung, and to pledge their support to [son and successor] Kim Jung Il.”

    Horowitz and Romerstein say North Korea’s interest in supporting Iraq’s interests lies in the old adage that “the enemy of my enemy is my freind.”

    Horowitz, a “red diaper baby” who grew up in a communist household and later became a conservative, knows the hard left all too well.

    He told NewsMax that the demonstrations here in Washington and in other cities included operatives from “the old communist left, the new communist left, and the next communist left. These are people who have supported America’s enemies for 20, 30, 40 years.”

    Not all of them are “genetic leftists,” he said, “but they subscribe to the fundamental views of the left which is that America is the great Satan and that private property and ‘corporations’... are the source of evil in the world.”

    Ronald Radosh, another “red diaper baby” and author of the book 2001 book “Commies,” has said there is certainly room for a true grassroots anti-war movement in this country. But for the likes of Workers World Party to manage and direct the appeasement movement is to distort and corrupt the debate.

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/25/144636.shtml
     
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    Most Useful Idiots: New York Times, Donahue, Ramsey Clark

    Wes Vernon, NewsMax.com
    Wednesday, March 5, 2003


    WASHINGTON – The author of the best seller “Useful Idiots” names the New York Times, out-of-work TV host Phil Donahue and former Attorney General Ramsey Clark as the leading “Useful Idiots” of the current day.
    In an exclusive interview with NewsMax.com, syndicated columnist Mona Charen awarded the so-called “newspaper of record” top billing in this category.

    “The New York Times even today has done everything possible to thwart the war against Iraq, is constantly presenting the United States in the worst possible light,” Charen told us.

    The newspaper, which has consistently ignored the communist affiliations of the organizers of the appeasement demonstrations against President Bush's policies on Iraq, earned Charen’s “Useful Idiots” prize for its tone deafness to national security of America. The pattern at the Times goes back more than a half century, before the outbreak of the Cold War.

    The columnist named names in the Times' tarnished history:


    Walter Duranty, who lied to his readers that there was no government-induced famine in the Soviet Union in the 1930s, when in fact those very conditions prevailed, with children dying on the street after their parents were hauled off to prison camps and executed. Their crime? They had property deemed best suited for the almighty state.
    Later, it was learned that the Soviets had bribed Duranty after learning of his “sexual proclivities.” That discovery became public knowledge years later after he won a Pulitzer Prize for his reporting. Charen noted the Times has not had the common decency to give back the prize or to offer an apology to the public.

    The best-selling author cited others who misled New York Times readers over the decades:


    Herbert Matthews, who wrote from Cuba that Fidel Castro supported democracy, obscuring or ignoring evidence that the ultimately successful revolutionary was in fact a Soviet-backed communist.
    (For another article on this topic, see "Profiles in REAL Courage.")


    Sydney Schanberg, whose reporting from Cambodia heaped scorn on the notion that there was a bloodbath in that unfortunate nation, and said “nothing could be worse for the Cambodian people than the American presence.” Once the Americans left, Charen recalled, “we had one of the worst bloodbaths in the history of the world.” One third of Cambodia’s people were eliminated.
    Later, in the book and movie "The Killing Fields," the Guilty White Liberal Schanberg is portrayed as the central tragic figure in the holocaust launched by Cambodia's communist dictatorship.

    Anyone reading the New York Times’ appeasement coverage of Iraq would do well to remember this track record.

    The runner-up in Charen’s “Useful Idiots” prize is former TV host Phil Donahue, who recently lost his slot at MSNBC because his ratings, in the words of a speaker at the annual C-PAC conference, were barely above “those of the test pattern.”

    Donahue excused the enemies of America in the War on Terror and played the “moral equivalence” game when the Soviet Union threatened world domination. It was just those “militarists” that were to blame, you see.

    Ramsey Clark's Hatred of America

    Third on this dubious honor list, in Charen’s view, is Ramsey Clark. NewsMax.com has documented Clark’s fronting for communist-backed groups organizing the recent appeasement rallies that benefit Saddam Hussein.

    That does not negatively affect the former attorney general’s standing with the liberal elite, notes Charen, and “he is still somebody that CBS doesn’t hesitate to call when they need someone to broker an interview between Dan Rather and Saddam Hussein.”

    Clark has made pilgrimages to “every capital of a country with whom we have poor relations,” including North Korea, North Vietnam, Libya, Iran, Panama and now Iraq, accusing the United States of war crimes in each and every place.”

    But Lyndon Johnson’s attorney general outdid himself in shameful performance by representing the terrorist PLO when it was threatened with a lawsuit by the family of Leon Klinghoffer, a wheelchair-bound American thrown overboard from the Achille Lauro cruise ship in the 1980s.

    In her NewsMax interview, Charen cited the recently arrested Florida professor Sami al-Arian, charged with ties to terrorists, as an example of people who get a pass and attain respectability in this country because of the cover given them by “useful idiots.”

    In just a few days after it was released, Charen’s “Useful Idiots” made No. 6 on the New York Times' best-seller list. Given that the Times itself stars as part of the title role, any review of the book by the “gray lady” could be, at best, a mixed blessing.
     
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    Celebrity Hawks
    THE LEFT COAST REPORT

    A Political Look at Hollywood
    Although Martin Sheen, Susan Sarandon and Janeane Garofalo have been dominating the anti-war airwaves of late, some stars with differing points of view have decided to speak up.

    Bruce Willis, Brian McKnight, Kid Rock, Rob Lowe and Jean-Claude Van Damme are saying things that are undoubtedly making the anti-war crowd steam. On the other hand, the celebrity rhetoric that’s coming out of these guys is warming the hearts of the kick-Saddam’s-butt bunch.

    According to the New York Daily News, Willis seriously thought about enlisting in the U.S. armed services.

    Singer Brian McKnight told MSNBC, “If we do go to war ... I'm going to support whatever President Bush decides to do.”

    Kid Rock colorfully expressed his views by saying, “We got to kill that mother-[bleeper] Saddam. Slit his throat.”

    Rob Lowe, Sheen’s former co-star on “The West Wing,” told Fox News Channel's "Fox & Friends" on Monday that Americans should support our armed forces, and that the best way to do that is to support our commander in chief.

    And action movie star Jean-Claude Van Damme told Globe magazine, “Some of those in Hollywood are part of the axis of ignorance!”

    The Left Coast Report says it’s nice to know that there are celebrities with the mental muscle to go against the grain.

    Score One for Powell

    It’s become almost routine for members of the American press to throw dumb or leading questions at members of the Bush administration.

    Maybe that’s one of the reasons why Secretary of State Colin Powell seemed so well prepared for the shifty question recently hurled at him by an Iraqi reporter.

    According to the New York Post, one of Saddam’s newshounds asked Powell, “Isn't it true that only 13 percent of young Americans can locate Iraq on a map?”

    “That may be true,” Powell countered. “You're probably right. But unfortunately for you, all 13 percent are Marines.”

    The Left Coast Report doesn’t expect that Al Jazeera will be broadcasting that little exchange any time soon.

    License to Shill

    Rumors have been flying. We heard he had his eyes set on the U.N. secretary-general slot. We heard he might go after the chancellorship of Oxford University. We even heard he’d be perfect as a talk show host on CBS, NBC or one of the other networks.

    Now we get news of his possible venture into the movie realm. Yes, reports indicate that Bill Clinton may be appearing in the next James Bond film.

    According to the Star, Pierce Brosnan has offered the gig to the limelight-loving “X”-prez. Clinton apparently responded in the affirmative and told Brosnan to call his reps. The Left Coast Report suggests that producers cast him as a new Bond villain – “Oldfinger.”

    Anti-War Bandwagon

    Not content to sit by and let actors hog all of the P.R., musicians have decided to strike an anti-war chord of their own.

    Australia's Shock Records is offering a double CD set called “Peace Not War.” The collection will include tunes by Midnight Oil, Public Enemy and Billy Bragg.

    And Madonna has indicated that her “American Life” video shows the horrors of war. Presumably, it accomplishes its goal while still having teens claim that it’s easy to dance to and has a really good beat.

    Now in an echo of the actors’ group Artists United to Win Without War, Def Jam founder Russell Simmons has helped to create Musicians United to Win Without War. And just like the actors, the musicians plan to do the print and TV ad thing.

    Musical activists include David Byrne, Rosanne Cash, Lou Reed, R.E.M. and Dave Matthews, who in a recent TV appearance couldn’t quite recall the full name of the group.

    Simmons told USA Today that P. Diddy “is more well-known and well liked by young people across the world than George Bush. Jay-Z is more well-known than Colin Powell. These are powerful voices that can make a difference.”

    Simmons also uttered, “Saddam Hussein is a horrible person, but that's Iraq's problem; George Bush – that's America's problem.”

    The Left Coast Report thinks MUWWW should really stand for Musicians United in Witless Wrongheaded Wackiness.

    China’s Getting Stoned

    The Rolling Stones’ “Forty Licks” tour is going to add two new stops to its list: Beijing and Shanghai. It will be the first time Mick & Co. perform in the most populated country in the world.

    China’s most famous rocker, Cui Jian, will open for the Stones in Beijing. Cui has rarely been allowed to play big shows in the capital because he performed in Tiananmen Square during the 1989 protests.

    Front-row seats aren’t going to be cheap. They’re being sold for $750. That’s about what the average Chinese person makes in a whole year.

    The Left Coast Report is confident that the Stones will be treated with respect – the same way the Chinese culture treats all of its elderly citizens.

    Spike & Mike

    Director Spike Lee has thrown his 2 cents’ worth into the debate on a potential war in Iraq.

    While in London to promote his film “25th Hour,” Lee referred to President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair as the “Killer B’s.” According to Lee: “This has nothing to do with disarmament. It’s about oil.”

    Meanwhile in Aspen, Colo., the pre-eminent disseminator of disinformation, Michael Moore, was picking up another accolade. This one was the Freedom of Speech Award from the U.S. Comedy Arts Festival.

    Moore urged the press to uncover a possible deal between the Bush administration and Russia to carve up Iraq's oil fields after a regime change in Iraq.

    Moore’s rhetoric was even stronger when he picked up a Book of the Year Award in London. The multimillionaire sham “working man” said, “America is being led into war with Iraq by a guy who can’t even find it on a map.”

    The Left Coast Report recommends that after the U.S. victory in Iraq, Spike and Mike work on a film together. How about a movie called “Do the Right Thing for a Change”?

    Carmen Electra’s Civic Duty

    We all know celebrities get special attention in our society. And we know that within the entertainment programming fare celebrity justice has become a subcategory all its own.

    Well, now the pattern of preferential treatment is apparently extending to the jury room. This is what happened recently when Carmen Electra, who used to be on the beaches of “Baywatch,” was selected as one of the jurors in a real-life courtroom drama.

    After just one day of service, the actress was dismissed from fulfilling her civic duties because of the effect she was having on fellow jurors.

    According to the New York Daily News, some of the female jurors were asking Electra to telephone their husbands and boyfriends. A source told the paper: “Carmen was such a distraction for everyone in the courthouse. So it didn't make much sense to have her around the next day - and the judge made the wise decision to dismiss her.”

    The Left Coast Report sees a job change in Electra’s future. Because stars have been getting into lots of legal hot water these days and Carmen has the ability to create a major distraction in the courtroom, sounds as if she’d make the perfect celebrity defense attorney.
     
  13. VYACHESLAV

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    Muslim-American soldier
    detained in Kuwait attack
    15 troops injured, 1 dead, in grenade assault Pentagon calls 'inside job'


    © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com

    A U.S. soldier being described as a Muslim is now in custody for alleged complicity in the grenade and small-arms attack on members of the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division encamped in Northern Kuwait, which injured 16 soldiers, one of whom has died.

    Several others were injured seriously, and three are in surgery.

    In addition, two Kuwaitis who had served a translators are being held for questioning, according to CBS News correspondent Mark Strassmann, who is imbedded with the 101st.

    Strassmann reported that the grenades were rolled into two commanders' tents. When officers ran from their tents, they were hit by small arms fire, he said.

    In an initial statement, George Heath, 101st spokesman at home base Fort Campbell, said: "From our reports it appears that a terrorist penetrated Camp Pennsylvania, one or more terrorists threw two hand grenades into a tent."

    But soon it became apparent that the attack was, as the Pentagon now says, an "inside job." After a roll call revealed that one soldier was missing on base, he was eventially found hiding. The soldier implicated was reportedly in charge of grenades, according to MSNBC.

    Time reporter Jim Lacey told ABC News that he talked to an eyewitness at the rear base camp who said that grenades were rolled into a tents that housed the leaders of the brigadier unit. A "terrorist," the witness told Lacey, shot the first two people who exited the tent. Sky News reports that a third grendade was rolled into a third tent housing officers, but that it did not explode.

    Camp Pennsylvania was named to honor of the victims of plane that crashed in Pennsylvania during the Sept. 11 attacks. The camp, located approximately 20-30 miles south of the Iraqi border, is surrounded by large berms and guarded by armed soldiers, with others in observation posts watching the desert. The camp is also home to Patriot missile batteries.

    The U.S. soldier implicated is currently being questioned, and U.S. authorities are tight-lipped about characterizing his possible involvement.

    Stuart Ramsay, a reporter with Sky News, says the Muslim soldier had become a concern to his commanding officers.

    "In recent days they were concerned about his behavior and were not going to send him up to the front when the soldiers were going to be deployed," Ramsay said.

    It is not clear whether the soldier, who Ramsay said would have been in the Gulf for some weeks, had planned the attack before being deployed.

    "Talking to other soldiers, it could be that he was disgruntled," Ramsay said. "They said he had been acting 'weird' for days."

    Lacey, the Time magazine reporter imbedded with the 101st, was in the tent next to the two tents that were the object of the grenade attack. In a phone interview, he told Fox News that the soldier responsible has an "Arabic-sounding" last name. Asked what his explanation of the perpetrator's motives, he said he believed "it was part of his misguided interpretation of his Muslim faith."
     
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    Russian Dealers Provide Iraq With Supplies, Electronics

    WASHINGTON — Russian arms dealers have equipped Iraq with supplies and electronic jamming equipment that could throw U.S. planes and bombs off course, Fox News has confirmed.





    The Washington Post first reported Sunday that Bush administration sources reported that a Russian company is helping the Iraqi military deploy global-positioning system jammers to Baghdad. Two other companies have sold anti-tank missiles and thousands of night-vision goggles in violation of U.N. sanctions.

    The United States protested the aid to the Russian government on Saturday for not doing more to stop the transactions, the Post reported.

    Fox News confirmed that Russians were in fact selling the equipment to Baghdad and that Russian technicians were in the Iraqi capital this week, instructing Iraqis on how to use the devices. Russians were in Baghdad as of Friday but it's not known whether they have left.

    "We are very concerned about reports that Russian firms are selling militarily sensitive equipment to Iraq," State Department spokeswoman Brenda Greenberg told Fox News. "Such equipment in the hands of the Iraqi military may pose a direct threat to U.S. and coalition armed forces."

    During more than a year of talks, the Russian officials initially denied the existence of the company that sold the electronic jammers, U.S. officials said. Later, the Russians said they were closely monitoring the company.

    "The stuff's there, it's on the ground and they're trying to use it against us," a U.S. official told the Post. Of the Russians, the official said: "This is a disregard for human life. It sickens my stomach."

    U.S. officials say they provided Russian authorities with names, addresses and phone numbers -- and in some cases, shipping dates and ports of exit -- of people involved in the sales so that Moscow could deal with it.

    "We regard this as a very serious matter and thus have raised it with the Russian government at very high levels over the past two weeks," Greenberg told Fox News. "The response so far has not been satisfactory. We hope the responsible Russian agencies will take our concerns seriously."

    With regard to night-vision goggles, U.S. intelligence agencies have seen some of the contracts -- required by international law -- in which the Russian government had to certify the end user of the equipment. In almost all cases, that end user was Yemen or Syria -- although Yemen has declared itself an allied partner in the war on terror. U.S. officials believe that the Yemeni or Syrian governments made sure the equipment got safely to Baghdad.

    Saddam Hussein's regime has upped its stockpile of anti-tank guided missiles produced by a company called KBP Tula, the Post reported. The United States hit this company with sanctions last year for selling anti-tank weapons to Syria, officials said.

    But Iraq bought a "militarily significant quantity" of Kornet missiles from that company in the past two months, reports the Post, and Putin's government was notified.

    The White House voiced the greatest opposition to the jamming devices, which officials said sell for thousands of dollars each and were sold by the Moscow-based manufacturer, Aviaconversiya, the Post reported. Protests were first lodged in June 2002.

    These devices were initially imported to counter U.S. and British jets patrolling the "no-fly" zones of northern and southern Iraq, U.S. officials told the Post, and were deployed last week when coalition forces began to attack Baghdad.

    Russian officials have even been summoned to Washington to discuss these issues. U.S. officials were angered when they found out last week that the Russian firms were showing Iraqis how to use and fix the equipment.

    The Russians "sure as hell should have been able to stop these guys," an official told the Post.

    The U.S. government suspects that the Russians were hiding some of the jamming equipment in humanitarian aid flights to Baghdad, Fox News has learned. The boxes are about 3 ft. x 3 ft.

    Fox News reported in January that Iraq may have obtained as many as 400 electronic "jammers" that could throw America's smart bombs off their programmed path if the U.S. goes to war.

    There was "real concern at the highest levels" at the Pentagon that Baghdad may have purchased the jammers from a Russian firm, a senior defense official said then.

    Officials said that if the smart bombs are diverted from their designated targets, no one knows what, or whom, they might hit instead. The worst-case scenario is they might fall on civilian sites and kill innocent people, causing collateral damage.

    The types of bombs whose courses may be altered by these jammers are called J-Dams -- for "joint direct attack munitions," guided by global satellites. These are the military's GPS-guided bombs. Each one costs about $21,000 and has a maximum range of 15 miles. J-Dams made their combat debut in Kosovo in 1999.

    It's estimated that 80 percent of U.S. weapons that would be used in a war with Iraq would be directed via satellites.

    The Air Force is now trying to test similar jammers to see if those used by an enemy can really work on U.S. weapons.

    Fox News' Foreign Affairs Analyst Marc Ginsberg, a former U.S. ambassador to Morocco, said Sunday that Arab television channels are reporting that the United States is angry at Russia over the GPS jamming devices, in part because the Pentagon had to slow down its bombing of Baghdad for fear that the bombs would hit civilian targets.

    Defense officials confirm the extensive use of GPS-guided munitions, including Tomahawks, JDAMs, and the EGBU-27 used to hit the Iraqi leadership compound on Wednesday night. These are all being used throughout the country. All of the munitions used in Baghdad have been GPS-guided.

    Fox News' Teri Schultz contributed to this report.
     
  15. Brad T.

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    And I thought it didnt get stupider then the Knights Forum.
     
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    Did I ask for your exasperating opinion? No, but thanks.
     
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    Ha, ha, ha, Brad. Boy, were you wrong!
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    But, if you're looking for a rah-rah Go-America thread, you should be right at home here.
     
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    [/qb][/QUOTE]Did I ask for your exasperating opinion? No, but thanks. [/QB][/QUOTE]

    No you didnt ask for his opinion, but Im sure you will get many more and justly so.

    Im a bit concerned about the British troops finding in Basra warehouse.

    Crates of ordinance made by Wallop industries ltd of Middle Wallop England.
     
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    That is why he gave it to you. You might need it. ;) [​IMG]
     
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