NJ Bans Smoking!

From smoking to organ donor opt-out
Now that's interesting

 

i just say dont touch it...

 

Okay, this is my last word on smoking bans, since it seems that the Nanny State has managed to excel itself:
Smoking Ban hits 'White Van Man'

 

I identify with all your concerns, but smoking and alcohol are two different things. You can have a beer or three wherever you want and there is no adverse affect to me in any way, even if I'm standing right beside you. The minute you light up a smoke however, you are forcing all those around you to inhale your second hand smoke. This act infringes on my right to breath clean air and my right to not expose myself to carcinogens. If you want to smoke in your own home, have at it, no one should tell you what to do in your own home, and no one says I must enter said home. However, the second smoking is done in public you are forcing others to breathe your poison.

My 5 year old son has asthma, should he be exposed to smoke when we go to a restaurant? I think not. Should he be drinking alcohol? Also no, he's too young. The fact is that if we are sitting at that same table I can have a beer with my meal and not expose him to any alcohol, but if I smoke he and everyone else in the place is forced to breath it in.

I'm all for the preservation of freedoms. The freedom to keep my organs, (even in death), the freedom to enjoy a beer, and the freedom to go to any public place and not be forced to partake in the unhealthy habits of others.

OK, rant off.

Oh, and very funny Fortune! I say leave it alone too!

 

I see where you're coming from, but you can't wrap kids in bubblewrap. My three all suffer from asthma too, but protecting them from any source of irritation would include car exhaust fumes, bonfire smoke, cheap perfume, household dust etc etc. Total protection would require them to spend their lives dressed like Neil Armstrong on the Moon! My youngest daughter has just also developed an allergy to Nickel; should I start a pressure group to have any Nickel-made products made illegal, to "protect the children"?
I just think it's suspicious that in 1997 the WHO published the results of a ten year study into passive smoking, which concluded that there was no proven link. I have yet to trace an actual copy of this report in any public, research or university library (or bookshop) anywhere in Scotland, despite reading a review of it in a couple of national newspapers at the time. Result? The anti-smoking lobby can spout any scaremongering BS they like, secure in the knowledge that practically no-one is in a position to challenge them. I'm also suspicious of the fact that one of the prime movers behind the ban in Scotland was ASH (Action on Smoking and Health) Scotland-a registered charity. Since when were charities in a position to demand anything, and what's their ulterior motive?

 

I here 40% of UK Doctors are refusing to treat people who are, over weight and smokers and drinkers, so what about the drug addicts?

If this is true why should we keep paying National Insurance?

PS Gordon it was reported by the BMA (Sorry to mention that organisation) I heard it on the radio

 

thats ridiculous, you shouldnt be paying national insurance....

 

Go wash your mouth out with Wright's Carbolic Soap...you...you...reprobate!!
The unfortunate thing is, it's compulsory to pay NI-we don't have any bloody choice! The way things are going, the only way you'll get NHS treatment soon is to be able to prove gym membership for at least 5 years, and medical proof that no-one in your entire family tree has ever died of anything but old age.
Nazi Germany, anyone?

 

Will do

At this rate no one will be seen EG -
"I got a scratch"
"Sorry this is a NHS Hospital who the hell do you think we are clear off and go down the road"

Man goes down the road to see a witch doctor
"holar holar blar blan foo"

Yes well you get the point

 

I'm up for the ban because smoking effects everyone around you, and can harm them too. Doctors shouldnt deny you insurance because your over weight and smoke, what about those on drugs? That's an even worse situation.

 

Smoking Ban in England!!

Great Scott! They did it!

 

Bear in mind that link only relates to England; Scotland and Ulster have already voted on it!

 

Wow! Good for them, I'm much more likely to go to the Isles on my next visit to Europe. It's about time they did this, people's selfishness shouldn't be tolerated if it impacts the health of others.

Three cheers for England. And Scotland and Ulster too.

 

Yes coming to the UK next year NO SMOKING by order.

Next up Alcohol there is talk to raise this any where from 21 to 25 well we shall see keeping watching the BMA.

OPPS Sorry Gordon time to wash my mouth out again
I meant to say the news.

 

To me, smoking and alcohol are two entirely different things. A single cigarette is bad for you and for those who are forced to inhale the second hand poison. A single beer affects only the drinker and is actually good for you. For most anything, moderation is a good policy, but there is no such moderation possible for an immediate poison like tobacco.

A smoking ban is good, and alcohol ban is unreasonable and unlikely.

My 2 cents anyway.

 

My neighbours are gutted yes they smoke and they are now planning to leave the UK reason yes the smoking band talk about drastic action.

 

'Tolerance should be learnt from smokers. I have never heard them complaining of non-smokers.'

 

Don't bet on it-the amount of anti-drink propaganda force-fed to the British public in the last few months borders on the obscene.

 

A snip of a story from the UK

 

My neighbours has got the for sale sign up now, had a chat with them the smoking ban is only one of many reasons. Right moving on get a load of this –

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2090-2047837,00.html

Talk about a police state