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Hitler had 5 Atomic Bombs on April 1, 1945

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  1. Roddoss72

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    Simply do you know what the dimensions of the German Atomics, if not the allow us this speculation and as we have said desperate times call for desperate measures, the Luftwaffe would throw everyting they had to protect those delivery bombers even if the meant a massive screen of hundreds of aircraft just to protect one aircraft. And i can assure you if the Germans had Atomics they would convert He-177's to deliver them.
     
  2. Obsessed with WWII

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    I think Germany would have bombed the following places:
    1. London
    2. Moscow/any Russian army that was gathered in close proximity to each other
    3. Placed the bomb on a submarine and sailed it into NY harbor on a suicide mission. The bomb would detonate and NYC would be destroyed
    The other 2 bombs would be saved for use as deterent against any further military action towards Germany by the Allies. Just in case the Allies didn't surrender, Germany could have used a fourth bomb to wipe out Washington DC, and then use a fifth to hit another Russian city. Or maybe don't bomb London and use 2 A-bombs against the Soviets.
     
  3. Roddoss72

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    Almost my answer.
     
  4. SPARTAN688

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    i don't actually think he would use them proably only threaten to use them he wanted to unite europe not blow it up........if he attacked all armys closing in around berlin that would get him no were and then the nuclear radiation have to wait what 60 years? no i don't see him using a nuclear bomb on europe soil maybe threaten to drop it in russia america and england.
     
  5. Za Rodinu

    Za Rodinu Aquila non capit muscas

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    Say that again?

    What kind of pulp fiction or revisionism are you reading? Who sold you that one? Don't tell me you read Hitler's Tabletalk and swallowed that!
     
  6. Hop

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    Talk of "destroying" London, Birmingham, New York, Moscow etc is a bit far fetched with 1945 nuclear bombs.

    I've attached a map of London, laying the blast effects of a 20 kt bomb, about the same as used on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The inner circle is severe damage, the outer moderate damage.

    Certainly this would be hugely damaging, but with the allies so obviously in a position to crush Germany, there's no way Britain would surrender at this point. Don't forget, in 1940/41 Britain had endured the Blitz, which saw about 50,000 tons of bombs dropped, and 40,000 civilians killed. And they endured that at a time when victory was a very distant prospect.

    And that's if the weapons could be delivered, which seems highly unlikely. Before he became a holocaust denier, David Irving wrote a history of the German nuclear projects. He describes the situation at the start of April:

    "By now, the American troops were held up only five miles
    from Stadtilm. On April 3, Gerlach reached Munich and tried
    to contact Stadtilm. It was impossible. He wrote in his diary:
    “Radio communications with Thuringia interrupted,” and
    added “All my chrysanthemums are flowering on the balcony.”
    He tried to contact the group through the local army headquarters,
    again with no fortune. He resolved to drive to Stadtilm,
    but the military situation made this impossible. Gradual
    paralysis was overtaking Germany’s internal communications.
    He could not even contact Erfurt, the nearest big city to Stad-
    tilm. On April 8 he tried again through the local army headquarters,
    but they could not contact northern Germany at all,
    not even Berlin."

    In circumstances like that, the idea that planes could be found and modified for the mission, and the bombs got to the airfields, seems far fetched.
     

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    von Rundstedt Dishonorably Discharged

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    I found some information that may interest some folks

    Two Heinkel He-177's were taken off the production line in January 1945 and converted to carry the atomic bombs, and by April they carried a replica of the bomb, and right up to the end of the war they practiced in delivering the bomb.

    So if by May 1945 Germany possesed at least one or two they definately could of being delivered, they had the aircraft ready to deliver the bombs.
     
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