Why the Third Reich was a bad thing.

Military aggression.
Mass Murder.
Concentration camps.
War crimes.
Anti-democratic.
Political assassination.
Corruption.
Fascist.
Secret police.
Anti-semitism.
Occupation of sovereign states.
Totalitarian suppression of those states.
Looting of those states.
Subversion of the court system.
Political patronism at all levels.
Anti-intellectualism
Vivisection of unwilling human beings.
Involuntary euthanasia.
Slave labour.
Torture.
Cruelty tolerated in official positions.
Cronyism/sycophancy.
Instigating a war in which c. 50 million people died.

Anyone got any more to add?

I only offer these as I reckon there's a small outbreak of romanticising the Third Reich and what it did going on around here recently. They may have had cool uniforms and some nice looking tanks but let's not forget the overall ideology was vicious murdering bastardism.
And before anyone chips in with the old 'ooh but the Soviets can be accused of many of those things', yes they could, as could other regimes, but that does not defend or exonerate the nazis in any way, shape, or form, merely enhances the truth that the world can be a terrible place sometimes.

Just had to get that off my chest .

Cheers,
Adam.

 

Yes those Nz's were evil as hell... But the black uniforms were kewl as hell too

 

Add? Yah....
A couple of Demonstrative, Relative, Intensive, Personal Pronouns to precede
"Bastard(s)"

Pompous/Pious
Sanctimonious/Hypocritical
Smug/Complacent
Remorseless/lacking all Compunction


as with all else, not the little guy (pawn)(some of them anyway), back row players. They couldn't not know.

 

So can Britain in the 1800's.

 

They could also march well........

 

Different time periods, different standards. At least the Communists weren't hell-bent on destroying all but one genotype.

Let's see...I can only think of a couple more.

-The birth of Neo-Nazism in all its incarnations.
-The spread of Communism.
-Mistreatment of POWs.
-The division of Germany.

 

VP, all I can say is.............Well said!

 

Hitler comes to power and employment goes up and crime goes down.

Just a bloody shame they were a bunch of criminals.

 

So, is Iran and Islam going to be the 4th Reich and conquer the world with oil and religious fanaticism. That president of Iran must have a copy of Mein Kampf on his desk. Heil Ayatoallah?

 

When you consider that the main population of Iran is Aryan based, are you inferring that there is a pecularity to the Aryan people that make them more prone to fanaticism? That is the slippery slope that can exist when people try to link past and future. In the hands of less than honorable people, those links can be distorted into a reason for hatred.

Do not forget that anything presented as a negative against Hitler's Germany, can usually be used against the Emperial Japanese government. And to a lesser degree, against the Italians. Our fascination is three-fold. We are by nature, fascinated by disasters. From Pompei to Katrina, we like to examine and what-if the subjects to death.

Second, we are attracted to shows of flash and machoism. The idea of men going into certain death, accompanied by all the noise and action, gives people a rush of adrenaline. It is the ultimate movie/game.

Finally, most of us on these boards are euro-centric. A culture that prides itself on its elevated civility, will always be driven to a group that ignores the domesticated tenants of society and gives way to base desires and the more bizarre acts. We understand the basic culture and try to see why it corrupted into such a cruel and perverted society. We do not really understand the Asian cultures, and so we dismiss them as secondary to the main show.

It is not so much that the Third Reich was a bad thing, but more that the people allowed to control it, were so hedonistic and cruel that they elevated the meaning of crimes against humanity. The term genocide is relatively new. It was not really a common phrase until it was seen in context as to what the Hitler regime did to the jews, gypsies, and others.

 

The radical element in Islam wants it to worldwide, not because of any racial ideas, ala, communism style. Aryans aren't any more prone to fanaticism then anyone else. Every society has it's fair share of fanatics of all types. My post was a rhetorical question, not a statment of fact. But, I wonder what is really going on with people that want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth and scream Death to America?

 

On a lighter note...Why the Third Reich was a bad thing?

Because Hitler was a Dallas Cowboys fan!!!

YouTube - the "downfall" of the cowboys...

Warning: Some strong language (sub-titled)

 

ChiefGeorge, my point was that we were talking about Germany and you got onto Iran. I was showing how people could make a link between the two factors without any real basis for doing so.

 

Conformist
Forced public participation / indoctronation (eg., Hitler Youth etc)
Intellectually dishonest
Regressive towards many technologies

Just to add a few more.

On a more interesting note:

Anti-vivisection of animals (eg., supported animal rights)
Vegan (vegitarianism was encouraged)
Supported abortion (for non-aryian and children that were not healthy)
Supported gun control
Enacted speech and thought restrictions and laws
Supported a form of affirmative action (eg., pro aryan and pro certain other groups like giving mothers a stipend for birthing more childern etc.)
Supported government social security and nationalized health care systems
Politizied unions (eg., turned unions into functionaries of the Nazi party to the exclusion of other political groups regardless of union member affiliation)
Nationalized education and youth groups for government indoctronation

Sound like any other groups you might know today?.....

 

LOL! their uniforms were the most amazing military uniforms ever.... no one has come close. Hitler would have been remembered as one of the greatest leaders if he died before 1939. In their mind they were restoring Europe to Germania of the Roman era, and they sure tried their hardest to defeat the evil communists. But other than that they sure committed some of the most horrible acts ever to be seen in human history.

 

You mean Demarats?, uh no.... Dumocrats, ah er..... that's right communists

One thing that is very interesting to note, despite of all the bad things Von had to say about Nazis(and he states the obvious)....people still keep posting and talking about them, collect their stuff, make movies and write books....an unintended consequence....strange init?

 

If I had to boil down what was bad about the Third Reich to just one word it would be violence.

Tha Nazi Party based everything on violence, or the threat of violence - from the guy next door you'd always wanted to get even with, to the rest of the World....

( BTW, anyone else noticed how many threads on here recently very quickly drift into USA politics ? Maybe we should have a whole new section on this site dedicated to that subject..... )

 

Very good post VonPoop, and, alas, a needed post indeed in times you can read on this forum some "Nazis just took their good ol' Germany back" delirium.

To the crime list of the "teenage wet dreams uberfighters in fancy uniforms" I will add this one :

- inventing techno music with their military marches : tzeem-boom tzeem-boom

 

Well, they banned Jazz, which is either a bad thing or a good thing, according to taste.

Seems odd that a forum needs a reminder as to why a bunch of murdering loonies are a bad thing.

 

It was nothing too serious mate, just a minor reaction to some slightly Barbara Cartland-esque views of the Nazi's being expressed by (presumably) younger new members, so I saw no harm in a brief resume of what the overall reich represented, lest we forget & all that.

And as for banning Jazz, tough call, depends on whether it was the "I don't blow, I suck" variety.

Nice...


Cheers,
Adam.