USA won World War Two and saved England ?

Thanx Otto! ( sorry about the mess...)

Anyway, what I was saying is that alot of US boys died in WW1 and also lots of money was loaned to fight the war. So if you get many dead boys back and not much thanx and you even lose the money ( even if due to poor financial situation in Europe ) I definitely can understand why people were not that interested about fighting a war in Europe again. Would it be the same again?

 

That is a very good point

 

Would it be the same again? That seems lke a moot point considering that almost every fighting man in America is currently deployed overseas. Then again it is serving our own interests. (Terrorism/9-11 payback)

Now if the battle was for the liberation of France, I don't think anyone over here would get very excited. They haven't been on the good side of the common perceptions for a couple years. Sorry Freid, nothing personal.

 

Ahaa! So we found the secret of Kai's unbelievable score! Don't let him go near a casino or there will be a jackpot in every machine he comes near!

 

I think if we are interested in the period before the USA came into the war, or the politics of it, and the statement or implication that the USA saved us here in the UK, we should a bit more into the Canada/USA talks in 1940 on the fate of the British fleet, and Churchills views on its survival if we were to fall. It might be quite interesting to some ro realise that no matter what occured afterwards, how we eventually 'marched' toghether, Britian at that time would and could have been left to the mercy of its enemies as long as the fleet was secured for the Americans. Churchill played a hard ball game over this issue, and scared the pants of his opposite number and his advisors in the USA.

 

What was it all about?

What did they fight for?

What were the objectives of each of the Nations?

Let's start with France. Was it honour and pride? They lost, scored an armistice and tried to continue life as normal?

How about Belgium? Violated, they tried to defend themselves against all odds?

Or Denmark? Didn't fight and came out in the end unbesmirched and uninvolved?

Or Switzerland?

Or the Vatican?

Are the answers more difficult to come up with? They all played a part in that event.

What did other Nations gain?
India? Italy? Australia?

And what was the cost.

How was the cost measured?

Nobody mentions the Jews.

Why not?

 

Oh dear I'd never think I'd stand up for the Danes, but Denmark did more for the Jews than any other occupied country.

As for defending themself, how do you defend a pancake of a country against the biggest war machine in the world?

 

As best as you can I think

 

” Didn't fight and came out in the end unbesmirched and uninvolved?”

” Or Switzerland?”
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”Or the Vatican?”
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You cannot be serious.

No.9

 

Good one No.9
Particulary fond of the Clock against the Tiger.

 

I'm sure I'm missing something here...

 

Nine, the Swiss guards carried machine-guns during WWII, and were better trained than the Marines!

Don't under-estimate Rome! What about the fearful Panzerkardinal?



Ooops! I'm sorry… he was playing for the other team at the time!

 

That pose makes him look like Dracula

 

Freddy!! guten soir marinero.

”the Swiss guards carried machine-guns during WWII”
Yeah, sure, I’m not falling for that one – the Swiss were neutral.

No.9

 

More information in Swiss/Vatican guards;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/pope/story/0,,1452750,00.html

They won WWII and saved England from Za Rodiny.

 

Thank you TA, I think I've seen a film on this?

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”Armaments, Chapter II, verses IX to XXVII.
And then the Lord spake, saying;
"First, shalt thou take out the holy pin.
Then shalt thou count to three.
No more, no less.
Three shall be the number thou shall count, and the number
of the counting shall be three.
Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two,
excepting that thou then proceed to three.
Five is RIGHT OUT. Once the number three, being the third
number be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch
towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.”

No.9

 

The 'might' of many nations won WW2, certainly not America alone. The British holding out against all odds, the French and Dutch resistance, USA with its industrial might etc.
Even if the USA never entered the war in Europe (except for the supply of arms), who's to say the Russians wouldn't have finaly got to Berlin anyway before Hitler could set foot on British soil? It's one of those 'what if' questions. Could the allies have still won in Europe if the USA hadn't entered?, I would say yes. But the victor would have come from the East. I think the USA realised this and couldn't realy afford to keep away.

But it realy was a joint venture, with the USA and Russia reaping the most benefits. Russia in terms of land, and America in economic terms.

 

Good point Stevie, I really hadn't given that alot of thought until now, that is not being able to afford staying away.
We don't exactly come from Mars, and family roots run very deep throughout Europe, and on all sides of that war.
The economic benefit for the "draftee" is what confuses me?
Rich people don't fight wars (for the most part), and neither do their children.
Certainly a joint effort of the poor people of the world, while the rich took credit for it, and made tidy profits.
(Daddy War Bucks)
Make no mistake, that aint everybody, but when you say USA, that is everybody.