Time to book my cell

Jails are so cushy criminals want to break IN to them, says prison boss | the Daily Mail


Better get booked up a.s.a.p before the mad dash for a nice cell.

Cool.

 

And incarceration is suppose to be a deterrent?????

 

Another thing for my Dictator plan!
Toughen up the jails! Bring back the cat!

 

Oh, thanks very much, Richard . I've been working for months on a plan to break into my local prison, and now you've let the cat out of the bag.....

 

Grrrrrr..... sigh.

 

I've heard Alaska has the best jails (in America). It's too cold to go outside (much), so they've got cable TV. They also have King Crab at least once a week, (not exactly hard to come by there).

Yah buddy, cushy jails with telephone privileges and visitation, practically no more death penalty.
I've heard of an incident where an inmate sued for better shoes, and won.
I've also read where the Army donated excess food (MRE's)(meals rejected by the enemy), the donation was refused because they/it didn't meet the inmates nutritional requirements, in California.
Sounds like one could run a business from there with no overhead and/as many "gangbangers" do.

Deterrent? No wonder the border is porous, no matter what....it's better here!

just looked up it costs $22,660 to incarcerate for one year on average nationwide (in 2001) including Joe's 40 cent a day meals, tent city.
Does a buck private in the Army make that? How bout a "McDonalds/Wal-Mart" working poor?

Shame

 

What they ALL need to do is follow Maricopa County Sheriff's example!! (Arizona)

Inmates follow strict fashion and lifestyle guidelines. They are forced to wear old-fashioned prison stripes and pink underwear. Prohibited items include cigarettes, adult magazines, hot lunches and television -- except for his bedtime story reading, a self-styled literacy program broadcast nightly to the inmates.

 

prisoners with shy tv my god i dont have this as yet free tucker .doctor
.free accommation and what ever else
but still i am glad i am on the out side
best krieg

 

I got the top bunk.

 

While I think in Europe the inmates are running the asylum on criminal justice, Sheriff Joe is not the answer either. I think that Sheriff Joe Arpario is equally evil. This thug is a complete moron. He has cost Maricopa county over $50 million in payouts to inmates for wrongful death, injury, calious treatment, failure to meet medical needs, and other conditions in his jails along with about twice that in legal and administrative costs in his 15 years in office.
He has wrecked the county's insurance rating and is costing the county about an extra $5 million a year in policy costs with a raised deductable from $250,000 to $1 million and climbing.
Just in the last week his stupidity cost the county another million dollars in payouts and he is now looking at another Department of Justice investigation into jail conditions.
There is a Catheloic preist wanted in Arizona on child molestation charges hiding in Ireland. Ireland had refused to extradite him back to the US for trial due to Sheriff Joe's stupidity. Instead, he is being held indefinintely in Ireland.
Joe himself owes over $75,000 to inmates in lawsuit payouts where judges have found him personally responsible for neglect or wrongful treatment.
Oh, he also has the highest recidivisim rate in the state and has had it for years.
The guy is an IDIOT!

Here; peruse the latest in Joke's stupidity:

Phoenix Arpaio - Phoenix New Times

This one is my favorite! Hollywood couldn't make stuff like this up if they tried....

Dog Day Afternoon, page 1 - News - Phoenix New Times - Phoenix New Times

How'd you like your house gassed and burned to the ground by a goon squad of Sheriff's deputies over two unpaid traffic tickets?

Oh, as an add on: Another house just a few blocks from mine was the target of another of the Sheriff's raids like the one above. Apparently, the current occupant was being evicted and waved a gun at the court processor serving him notice. The Sheriff showed up and with little ado began to fire pepper gas, tear gas and stun grenades into the house indiscriminantly. They then drove the aforementioned armored car through the back fence of the house, narrowly missing dropping it into a 10 foot deep diving pool in the back yard. The vehicle became impaled on the fence and house immobilizing it for two days before the Sheriff's department could get a heavy wrecker to tow it out.
As for the occupant: He had committed suicide in a front bedroom and could be seen through the window to that room sitting on the couch he committed the act on. The Sheriff's goons did enter the house firing a stun grenade through every door of it, including rooms after they found the dead guy. They blew the garage door off the house across the street into the neighbor's front yard, blew most of the windows out of two other neighboring houses, blew at least two holes in the roof and fired I'd estimate at least 50 rounds of gas into the building.
How do I know the last? I got hired by the new owners to do the electric and pool pump system repairs on the home a few days later. The poor drywall crew got the living @#%%^ nuked out of them by residual tear and pepper gas. There were 37mm L7 cannisters everywhere. One little bathroom with a toilet and shower stall had 20 of these on the floor in it. The room was literally dripping tear gas!
That little outting cost the county nearly $50,000 in restitution to the new owners for damages to the house. They had to have it redrywalled, all new electric fixtures, new roof, repairs to the brick structure (me again), new pool pump, filter and piping (me), all new doors, new interior paint, new kitchen and bath cabinets, etc, etc, etc.....
All because the Sheriff didn't have enough sense to peek in the windows first.

 

Well I guess it's a catch 22 then huh! Spend the money on the luxuries they should not be getting, IMO, or put them in tents and spend the money on making restitution! It's probably a wash, monetarily. But the real test would be to see the crime stats for this county since this guy has taken over.

Anyway, back to the original post, jails are way too cushy over here too!

 

It used to be "let me out", now it's "let me in" (and I'm not having a dirty mind here)

 

The "happy" medium is to put thugs in a clean, safe prison where there are just the basic ammenities they have coming: Basic health care, some little job to keep them occupied, basic hygene facilities, basic recreation facilities, cleanliness and a safe enviroment, good control and safety for the guards / staff, access to basic education, legal materials, and if they have some funds a few "luxury" items from a prison store.
Done properly, the prisons don't pay inmates millions for lawsuits due to conditions like Joke does. They also don't have massive drug or violence problems, and the staff has good morale and is safe working there.
Here what we see are two extremes that simply don't work.

 

WOW! From all those "where is Sheriff Joe when we need him" emails, I never would have thought all this. You'd think he was a legend.

 

It's like watching a cartoon and Rambo at the same time!

 

Some of the above, sounds awfully suspecious to me. First off, I have never, not once, ever heard of any local Law Enforcement Agency, not wear something on their person somewhere-that would clearly identify who they are. I know here in my area, they are easily I.D.ed by symbols on their vehicles, their ""flak vests"" headgear of whatever types they wear, shirts, front and back sides of jackets, etc-let alone, wearing their badge in a highly visable area-i.e. on their left pockets, somewhere on their shirts/jackets, on their caps, or on their belts-facing frontwards.

It sounds to me like said reporter of the Phoenix New Times, is grossly anti-Law Enforcement. Also, it sounds like to me, that someone had a grudge of sorts on people in Law Enforcement.

Now, before TA decides to jump on my *ss about what I said above, I, do not know how their Law Enforcement Agencies, and their employees, are. I know that here in my area, as is probably the same situation in all law enforcement agencies, that inevitably therre are a few assholes working there-we have a few in our local agencies.

That said, I do believe that some law enforcement agencies have too much power-and they can get away with murder; at times. However, I also knwo that the vast majority of the folks who work in our local L.E. Agencies; are good honest people-as is everywhere.

It's not only my opinion, but the opinions of many people I have chatted with over the years, that they (law enforcement agencies) have too much power. Also, we need to go back to the basics -when practible and possible, abide by the laws that our Country was founded on. And yeah, im a Constitutionalist and proud of it.

That said (above) and is my opiion based on what iv'e heard on various talk news shows and such i.e. Bill O'Reilly, Hannity and Combs, Lou Dobbs, Eric von Wade, Bob Jones, Neel Boorts, Michael Medved, Michael Reagan etc-excluding Rush Limbaugh, about Sheriff Joe Arpaio, is that I will agree with his polocies on illegal aliens but do disagree with some of his harsh ways of doing things to the general populationof inmates and non-inmates alike.

I see no viable reason that inmates should have to eat baloney sandwiches which I have heard, is close to being rotten food. I do not see any reason why they are fed bread that has some mold on it. To me, that's BS and is not going to teach any inmate a lesson on not committing a crime in the future. Only lesson I can see tought to them by eating bad food and sleeping in tents, is just not to commit a crims within Arpaio's jurisdiction.

As for his treatment of illegals-I say, spot on and it's about darn time that someone enforces those laws. In short, I like this Sheriff for some reasons but, I don't like him for other reasons and think that if left unchecked, this guy can (if he has not already) become a very dangerous person to have in such a position of authority as he is in.

 

I agree with the idea of putting them in that sort of place, unfortunately there is usually some bleeding heart there saying they are being mis-treated, no matter how good they have it! This is one reason why they end up being catered too.

 

This issue doesn't arise from the 'cushyness' of prison but from the corruption within the prison service. That said, it also isn't a new thing. A client of my fathers was a hit man for the Crays and he talked about having parties in prison, bringing in prostitutes and all manner of other happenings which rendered life inside easily bearable. Not sure how to get around that, it's an odd one.

T.A. I agree entirely with your post, pretty good description of what we need to aim for. Just a shame the prison service over here is so corrupt it makes the police look straight!

 

It sounds to me like said reporter of the Phoenix New Times, is grossly anti-Law Enforcement. Also, it sounds like to me, that someone had a grudge of sorts on people in Law Enforcement.

The New Times paper is what is usually refered to as an "alternative paper." It is very Liberal to Leftist in many of its views; that is the half with articles. The other half is all entertainment advertising including adds for "Smoke shops" and all the topless clubs. But, with that said, the articles they have done on Joe Arpaio over the years have always been very detailed and had a great many sources listed within them. They do tend to add some hyperbole to articles gratitiously but if you take them with a grain of salt there is an awful lot of fact and in Joe's case very negative ones.
The paper was also responsible in large part for getting Arizona and Utah to move against the FLDS church leading to the arrest and conviction of its leader Warren Jeffs. They pointed out massive fraud and corruption by the chuch taking state and federal funds for other purposes and funnelling it into their chuch operations. They were also the paper that brough much of the underage marriage and other child abuse to the public's attention. That was a good thing at a time when no one else wanted to touch this can of worms.

In fact, another case Joe just lost last month at a cost of about half a million in taxpayer money was to the New Times and several other local media sources over gross violations of Arizona's freedom of information act. Joe's department regularly had a habit of not giving public information out to papers, television stations, or other groups and individuals that he deemed "enemies." The New Times headed the list.

On the house I described (the one I worked on); I saw that operation up front and personal from less than a block away and the aftermath of it on the spot. I know a 37mm L7 round when I see it. I know what the residuals from stun grenades and stingballs look like too. Whether his guys were suited up or not, what he did in both cases was gross overkill given the situation the department was faced with.
Phoenix PD would have never done either that way. Of course, Joe's rank and file haven't gotten a raise in almost a decade and are some of the lowest paid law enforcement in the Phoenix metro area. Much of that can be put on his waste of funds and having to pay out for his stupidity over the years.

Here's a few fun ones he's done:

Spent $100,000 to buy a deactivated 155mm howitzer surplus from the US Army to tow in parades.
Spent $500,000 buying a Bell UH-1 helicopter that has never been flown. The department cannot afford the gas. It sits at Sky Harbor airport for sale but the county can't find a buyer.
Spent a pile of money on a semi-tractor loaded with all sorts of communications stuff, etc., (like you see on those action movies) including having his name promenently painted on the sides of it (of course). He used to have it driven around the Valley as free political advertising until the county took it away and sold it off due to the expense of operation and no need for it.
Bought several .50 cal sniper rifles obstensively to "shoot down terrorist aircraft" that have never been, and will never be, used.
Right now, he's in a flap for sending some of his top executives to Honduras obstensively to train their police......at......get this.......a resort run by Club Med on an off shore island running a tab to date of about $100,000. He says the bill is much lower because he's using federal money for drug enforcement gotten from busts.....Rrrriiiiigggghhhhhtttttt.....

I have live with this fool running around. You guys don't.