Looking to buy a K98

Just got my application in the mail for my C&R license today . Took about a week from when I ordered the form online.

 

Shotgun News is selling Mosin Nagant snipers for $400, sounds like a good price to me, but I figure I'll check in w/ yall before I do anything, because I've got a buddy who ordered a K98 Sniper for $500 and got a Khyber special...

 

$400 for ONE Nagant?!?!? even by todays prices, thats awfully expensive. Not too long ago, I could buy a case of Nagants (20 rifles) for less than $1,000 bucks.

I'll almost bet that that K98 sniper your friend is getting, is one that is either or-the following: imported and has import stampings, refurbished "battlefield pickups" mis-matched numbers, and also possibly used by some foreign military-then refurbished. Not that that's a terrible thing but, to get a true WWII German K98 Sniper, your still going to look at over $2,000 bucks. The one I have is one and has had only four owners. 1) the Curator of the Mauser Museum in Oberndorf, 2) the G.I. who liberated this rifle, 3) the Mauser dealer who bought it from this guy, 4) and me-the guy who bought it from that Mauser dealer ;-)) --- not that i'm trying to brag though-just trying to let you know some of what to expect-when looking for these kinds of weapons.

Take good care, and best regards--Carl.

 

Oops, sorry I misread your posting (on the Nagant Sniper rifle). ;-))

 

My buddy got a Khyber Special, it's a fake rifle made in the Khyber Pass region of Pakistan. If you shoot a Khyber Special, you end up in the emergency room. They look just like the real guns, but they're made literally from scratch from things like railroad ties and train tracks. They usually have easy to identify errors on them too, like my buddy's K98 sniper has it's serial number electro-penciled and has Arabic writing all over the stock. The bolt is also slightly too short for the chamber, so there's a small opening in the chamber. Plus, it's smooth bore. It's worth a whopping $0.00 and shooting it is only slightly less dangerous than holding a lit M-60 firecracker in your hand. That's why I'm a bit... skeptical about the whole sniper rifle for $400 thing. Even though Russia had the highest percentage of infantry rifle -> sniper rifle conversions in the entire war... $400 just seems too good to believe. Any of y'all know what kind of price those things usually fetch? 'Cause I was thinkin' of going for a Dragunov, but those things start at $800 and go upwards of a thousand, so I think I'll avoid that for now.

 

Since today is June 6th, I'd like to observe a moment of silence in memory of all those who served and died and those who served and survived on D-Day. Hopefully today will some day be a national day of rememberance, but I'll not hold my breath on that. Remember to make your local WWII veteran's day by saying hi and thanks!

 

I've heard of this before about weapons being made either in Pakistan or in Afghanistan-scratch built. The reason why I know of this is because I know someone who had someone who made him an exact copy of a DWM 1917 Artillery Luger-for about $100 bucks. I've only seen pictures of it but never in person. The thing is literally a work of art. I don't know how it is when it comes to being fired but, I heard at least for this one, that it was just as good if not better-than the original German manufactured pistols. That area also produces all-kinds of things including Imperial and WWII German Militaria-that is an exact match, with the original period produced militaria. I wish I had a contact overthere, as I would like to see how much it would cost to have a few German Stalhelms made.

 

They use a master copy of the item and just continually re-produce it. I'll have to go track down the web address of the site that had a guy posting about his Enfield No. 5 Mk I that was a Khyber Special. They're sometimes impossible to distinguish from the real ones. You gotta be careful though because they sometimes turn out like my buddy's, that had a gap in the chamber. Also heard of ones that had a solid rod instead of a barrel, and ones that had a decoy action (couldn't fire at all). If you manage to make your way over there some day, get them to synth you an MP44. They can get you one for about $200 and it looks just like the real one. Makes a great wall-hanger without the cost associated with buying a real one. Just don't fire it, cause it doesn't come with a warranty... incidentally, Stalhelms would set you back around $30-50 depending on who you went to. It's just like buying stuff in Mexico, never take the price they offer, always haggle. Oh, and hope they aren't packin' an AK-74u under their robes... because diplomacy isn't really guaranteed when negotiating the price to have an item made over there.

 

All the above sounds good to me. I would not mind having an MP-40 made. I need one to go with a Jager tunic im planning on owning hopefully before the end of the summer.

 

Hi guys, when the Russians captured the k98s they electro -penciled numbers on to the bolts and stamped an x on to the receiver, all the ones I have seen have all the original German markings, but not all the serial numbers match up
the one I have has an excelant condition bore, but considering it has not been used much since 1945 its not supprising
the Russians capptured these wepons and stoered them just-in-case, I know that dealers in England are still buying them directly from Russia, one dealer I spoke too told me that they have been stroed in a mine since the war, I also have read that the Russians armed other comunist states like Vietnam with Greman wepons
If you check out my previous posts you will see the pictures of my rifle, its fitted with a zf 41 long eye relife scope, origanaly designated a sniper rifle, then down graded to a sharp-shooting rifle
But remember when buying a k98 sniper rifle beware the copys the market if flooded with them and you can not all ways tell any diffrence from a copy and an origanal
Unless you buy one from a vet who got it him self, I would all ways be very carefull, these rifles had scopes fitted that where military issue and also hunting scopes, you can buy a ex-russian captured rifle in England for £300, a copy side rail mount off ebay for around £150 and a period hunting scope fro Greman ebay for around £50 to £100 in good contionon, total £500 and probibly just as genuine as the one you pay £2,000 for

 

Hmmmm......hadn't thought about wall-hanging mine. But then, my wife would very likely object.....




...and someone would probably steal it.....

 

LOL I Used to have all my rifles over the mantle of my fireplace in the living room years ago. There was a big bay window facing the street. They could be seen from the window. One day a couple of police officers were over to talk to us about the theft of a cell phone. When they saw the rifles on the mantle,and there were five of them that were on display, they asked if I was worried about someone stealing them. I told them that they had been there for years and not once had anyone tried. I didn't mention the about 15 other weapons I had in the house LOL. Of course about twice a year I would sit on the front porch and clean them just to let everyone know that they were functional and that I could use them LOL. I even had a crack house next door. I told them all the time that if I ever caught one of them in my yard or house I would have no qualms shooting them. Thre house didn't last there long. Peace though superior firepower .

 

Whahaha fantastic!

 

Your story reminds me of something that happened about 12 years ago.

I used to live in Kingsville, TX, a small city with anywhere between 23,000 to 30,000 people lving there. At that time, I had a gal who was my Fiance-who (to make a very long story short) got kidnapped from her work, and the sick bastard raped her, but she managed to escape when he "got through with her for the time being" by jumping up-naked from the top down, ran to the door and managed to unlock all four locks on that door-while he was reaching for a knife and made motions to stab her.

My now ex-fiance, screamed as loud as she could, (which I actually heard as I had not been able to fall asleep that night) ran outside that bastards home and made her way home-which was basically just across the street from where she was held captive.

Fast-forward several hours (and unbeknownst to me) that the commotion I heard hrs earlier-was me fiance running for her life. A normal start of the day for Heather and I, was that if I did not call her by 9 am, that she would call me at that time. This had been routine for us, since the first week I had known her.

Anyway, all night long, I had a sick feeling in my stomach but couldn't figure out why? but at about 10 Am that morning, sadly, I found out why. Apparently after Heather had escaped from that dope swilling #$%^&&* pig, the police were called and were on the scene within 5 minutes. They actually saw this bastard driving away as they arrived. Thankfully, my fiancee had known where this jerk had worked and that was where the cops found it at--all passed out and a baggie of mary janes in its clutched hands.

Anyway, I got Heather on the phone at 10 AM-I had tried earlier but, apparently she was still being questioned at the police station) and when she answered the phone, I heard her quivering -to which I thought she and her mother had had a bad fight of somekind-as they barely got along with each other.

Heather had asked me to come over at 11 AM-so that she could have time to get better composed. At that point, I still had not known what had happened to her. Well, trying to make the time go by as fast as possible, I showered in record time, and completed getting dressed outside by my truck-in about 20 degree temps. I was very woried about her and could not contain myself to wiat an hour-so I got to her place at about 20 minutes after 10 AM. What I saw when I got there was a great surprise to see.

Heather was born and raised in a very small town in Maine-and the biggest City she ever lived in, was Kingsville. Anyway, when I usually came by her house, the front door was always open, all the window shades were always open and Heather usually sat on the front porch to wait for me to come get her.

Well, I had a heavy feeling in my chest that something bad had happened. When I got to her front door-I rang the doorbell and stood back so that I could be seen through the peephole. It took me almost 30 minutes to convince her that it was only me at her door. I had no idea what to expect?

I heard Heather by the door and she opened it but it still had a chained lock on it) to see me standing there. After she was sure I was alone-she let me in. I came in and she immediately started crying and shaking, so I did the best thing I knew how and gently guided her to a shair-and I sat on another chair several feet away. Without her saying so, I figured out part of what had happened.

Heather and I spent the next several hours talking through her ordeal and she let me hold her through most of it. Usually after a woman gets raped-they usually do not want any male to touch them. I know this through my years volunteering for several organizations.

ANyway, thouse of you who have read my story before, also know that the jefk who raped Heather, was caught and sent to State Prison. You will also know that a few months after this had happened, I got a job as a Correctional Officer-and happened to be assigned to the prison unit that that $%^&head was incarcerated at.

End result, that inmate was transferred from the Garza West unit to the Roach unit-near the border with Oklahoma. As far as I know, this f**k is still in prison-but this time it was for repeadedly raping a two year old girl.

 

And that's why I thank the NRA daily for pushing through the law to allow CHLs years ago. A friend of mine's fiance almost got car jacked, but she had a glock in her purse. Long story short, the guy that tried to jack her still hasn't recovered full use of his left arm (she nailed him in the shoulder with two rounds, sunk one into his rotator cuff). Incidentally, if that whole incident happened to a fiance of mine, that guy would've been stuck in a cell with the most dangerous criminal in the whole block.

 

Hello Father.A/ thanks for that story and sorry for your friend and his fiance. I am glad that she did have a handgun and was able to use it. It took a few weeks after the incident with Heather, brofre she really wanted to do anything. I had been telling her i'd like to teach her how to use a weapon and she always had an interest but, even more so now.

I bought her one of those Russian made Makarov 9MM-which was perfect for her. Heather had a blast firing that thing. Needless to say, she became a very good shooter and love the handgun. At that time, she had a five year old son-who we also tought how to use that weapon--just in case........

As that jerk was a repeat sexual offender, i'd loved to have seen it locked away for life. The next time they let it out of jail, it might kill the unfortunate person whom it decides to abduct and rape.

Take care and best regards--Carl.

 

Glad to hear you taught them how to protect themselves. Personally, I keep my uncle's old Desert Eagle in my room just in case (not 21 yet so I can't get a CHL yet). I'm gonna end up giving my friend and his wife a Taurus Raging Bull as a wedding present next month. Incidentally, I just got back from the Dallas gun show. Managed to get an Arasaka Type 99 Last Ditch Sniper for $110 off a guy who wanted to get rid of it (ain't gonna shoot it until my insurance is at 100% 'cause emergency room visits are pricey @_@;. Also got a Tula M91/30 w/ laminated stock in pristine condition for $100 flat, all matching serial #'s no re-arsenal, no counter bore, also no accessories... but I did get a sling for $20 on the side. Now it's time to go find a Raging Bull... Peace through superior firepower indeed!

 

Hi F.A.t.P, Thanks. After a few outings, Heather was very good with her hitting the target where it counted ;-)) Desert Eagles are nice-I always wanted one of the .50 Cals myself. Everytime I went to go buy one-I always wound up buying something else-which was how I wound up with about 20 rifles of all-kinds and a Intratek DC-9, and a few other items.

You got that right, Ariskas are some real Dogs. Personally, I hate them, Nambu's etc.

The next big gunshow you go to-look for a dealer by the name of Banda. That guy is who I got four of my guns from-two being a 1953 made Russian SKS and an early-made but cheap piece of junk-Chinese-made SKS-which I had converted into an assault weapon (before that stupid law went into effect) by having it's internal seven round fixed mag removed-so I could put in Banana Mags, also had a bi-pod mounted to it as well. The other two weapons I bought were: Chinese made Uzi-which was also an early and better manufactured piece-but no-where near as good as it's Isreali Cousin) and a Chinese-made AK-47-which also turned out to be a piece of $hit.

The thing about Banda's Guns is that he sells mostly Russian and Chinese made weapons but, does have a smattering of German, Swiss and Austrian made weapons. Most of his prices are lower than you will find elsewhere. If I recall, I THINK he had a gunshop in Dallas or Arlington, TX??? can't remember?

The moral to this story is-that ALL Chinese made weapons are pieces of junk.

 

I'm just going to have to tear myself away from this thread - must just walk down to the corner shop for a newspaper and a bottle of milk...

 

Yeah I just found out my Arasaka is a rare variant that has a double circle engraved on the bolt rather than a Chrysanthemum. Plus, it's drilled for a sniper scope. *Begins seeing dollar signs*. Not only that, it's not import marked, so it's even MORE rare than the standard ones. It also has an inexplicable lip on the end that seems like it would be used for a slotted bayonet, but as far as I know, all known Arasaka variants used a folding bayonet or a lugged bayonet (which this one has no signs of compatability with). Could be a prototype maybe? It also seems to be rifled on the outside of the barrel, which I can't explain. Ah well, if yall have any insight, this rifle is for sale on Gunboards.com, and I'd be glad of pricing suggestions.