Win one for us gun-totin' Gippers! :-))

Actually, the guy bugged me and I got the chance to dish out. You're right people on drugs do stuff they didn't while sober. And if you don't have any cash why would they arm you?
Oh my sources are the regular police reports and a PJ agent I know... And he ows a lot of weapons... more than 50 or so.

I never saw the good old days of communism. I was not aware that a single country adopted Communism as their doctrine...


Cheers...

 

Non taxpayer/non Citizen = Non issue/nonsense

No one is either begging or forcing you to either come here or own/carry a gun. It is our "Choice", and that's the way we like it.

Choice, something you gave away out of fear. (how's that working out for ya?)

PzJgr...It wont let me give you anything, so I owe you one !!

 

Yes, and????????

 

Tik, Ike, well-said both of you, very well-said.

 

http://patdollard.com/2008/07/bashage-award-dad-shoots-armed-robbers-who-tried-to-kidnap-son-with-video/

SCOTTSDALE, ARIZONA-An Avondale man shot at armed robbers Saturday night when they tried to take his infant during a robbery, according to a police report released Monday.

The Avondale family had started to unload groceries at their home near Main Street and Litchfield Road when three men approached the car with guns and demanded money.

When the victim, 52, said he didn’t have any cash, one robber said, “get the baby”, according to Avondale Police Sergeant Memo Espinoza.

The victim pulled out a handgun and the three robbers started shooting at the man and the house. The father shot back.

 

To simply roll over and let the burglar have what he wants and hope he just goes away is rubbish. You have a 50/50 chance he won't kill you anyway. I prefer to be on equal footing.

 

So? should he have tried to fight back? It seems that he didn't have any "Martail Arts" skills or should he have let them take his baby? And I can bet you that the robber's weapons weren't legal.

 

Impressive.....for some reason I've got James Earl Jone's voice on my mind


I will also send you a rep when it decides to let me do so.

Gentlemen, and you know who you are. I am impressed and proud, thanks.

 

My point still stands. He could've goten he or his family dead. As I told, I'm not against people owning guns. I think that it takes one jerk to spoil what a hundred did. And your lack of control on who owns guns can make a lot
jerks appear. Columbine was preformed with legal weapons... All I say is you should make it harder for people to get around guns. Maybe with a psicological exam in a state clinic (but non of that one day you're ok thing) something that narrowed it down.


Cheers...

 

Yes they may have been, but where were the kids parents.... its not the guns it is the people. Fix the problem not the symptom.

 

I'm seriously comfounded here. Did you not read the article? They were about to take the baby. You pointing out that he could have gotten his family dead means nothing when the alternative is his baby being taken away if he followed Miguel's Operational Rules of Engagement when being Mugged.

His resistance resulted in the robbers gaining nothing, his family intact and unhurt. So your point really means nothing other than it really is just your opinion and nothing more. What you believe may work in your country, but things are different here. Luckily I do not judge Portugal as a nation by the callous comments of a single individual. Too bad you cannot do the same.

 

it's tiring to be arguing pointlessly. I do not have a rules of engagement book nor am I saying I wouldn't resist. That's an extreme situation. The point is, he could've died and his family too.


Cheers...

 

I agree, it is tiring when you have a pointless stance. There are a lot of of 'could haves'. He could have killed all of them. They could have taken the baby and killed the family. They could have, they could have, they could have. Your point is mute. He made a decision of defending against them taking his baby. You are faulting that decision on the mere reason of 'they could have killed his family'. That's rubbish.

Tis you who is arguing pointlessly. May I suggest a nice condo for you in Tibet where you and the dali Lama can converse of peace over a nice cuppa tea?

 

And not surprisingly enough Miguel gave the response I expected. LET Them TAKE THE BABY. Well In the REAL world that didn't happen did it? And of course the thought that the BAD GUYS would have them probably killed the family afterwards as it is better to have no witnessess didn't enter his thoughts did it? He would have rather died FIGHTING FOR his child then let THEM take it.

 

As would I. I don't fear death for me nor for my family. I know we will be going to a better place unlike those heathenous bastards that I will be taking out. But lets not start another pointless argument.

 

True True.

 

You can have my gun after you pry it from my cold, dead fingers.

 

Cheers...

 

Dang Miguel you flip-flop so fast I believe the Earth is turning faster. You're like Stalin with a "save the whales" T-shirt.
You say the USA shouldn't meddle in "any" international affairs, yet you MEDDLE freely in the affairs of the USA.
Glad to here Portugal has such a squeaky clean history (rent the "Mission"), that they can make decrees as to everyone else's behavior.