Obama has won

Very True, but who created the Macdonalds franchise?

 

The Second Amendment is the part of the US constitution that provides that American Citizens have the right to carry and own firearms. In the case of District of Columbia vs Heller, ruled on in June, It was ruled that self defense is a key part of that right.

Taking away the guns of honest people will only insure that criminals are armed.

 

I know about the laws for owning Firearms in America, but is it really that common among the people? I can understand farmers owning rifles and what not on their farms, but in terms of the average city person, is it common?

 

Hi Tomcat. Obviously I can't speak for everyone or even bigger cities than the one in which is nearest to me. In Scranton PA i would estimate that about 20 percent of people in the city are hunters. I would also estimate that another 10-15 percent own handguns for either self defense or criminal activity. I would say that about 30-35 percent of people in that city own a weapon of some kind. But this is just a city in a backwoods area of the state. I would doubt that 20 percent of people in Philadelphia are all hunters, but then they would also have a larger gun crime rate. These are just estimates based on what I have seen, and I have no evidence to back it up of course.

 

So every American on this forum own a pistol or rifel.
What's the age limit to owning a gun in the United States?
I'm Just curious, i always wanted to know these facts

 

See? that's what I'm talking about... Why are you always so defensive?? What are you so affraid of?


Firefoxy lady, don't start an argument on 2nd ammendement rights. You don't know what you're getting yourself into



Oh and I saw a recent video of Obama adressing the Nation talking about a national security force independent from the army but just as well funded and equiped... Did he meant the police?? I couldn't quite understand...



Cheers...

 

I didn't realized Americans on here get upset on this topic.
Hey, American guys, please don't answer my post on "Who and what age can own a gun. Please don't answer it. I don't want to up set you.

 

FF, there is no harm in asking that question, Just dont tell us we shouldn't own the guns at all. You must be 18 to purchase a firearm or ammunition and place the title in your own name, however My first gun was bought for me by my grandfather when I turned 12, the age you can begin hunting with parental supervision. So long as you don't have a criminal record anyone can purchase a weapon.

 

I believe you have to be at least 18 and have a permanent residence (and no mental issues) to purchase a firearm in the US of A. You have to buy the gun in state (unless at gun show) and pass a background check to do so. Of course, not all gun-sellers follow this rules, which is how some mental people get hold of guns (like that VT gunner, I believer, and the Columbine Kids - they were too young and the gun dealer wouldn't sell to them, so they got their GF who was 18 to buy them for them).

 

Miguel,

Responding to a post with additional information isn't being defensive and doesn't indicate some fear or insecurity. The fact that you don't agree with the information or would like to see it changed is YOUR problem, not mine, so why don't you stop accusing others of being "defensive" because YOU have a problem with what we are saying.

As for Firefoxy, she has a perfect right to ask questions about the Second Amendment without you suggesting she is opening a forbidden topic. Americans feel strongly about the Second Amendment, but so long as ill-informed people from other countries don't persist in trashing our legal system, they will be treated with respect and their questions answered in a logical and factual manner.

With respect to Obama, no one knows exactly what he is talking about and that probably includes the man himself. We will have to wait until he becomes the President and reveals his plans in detail by making proposals for new programs and legislation; until then it is all just smoke and mirrors.

 

Americans only get upset when people from other countries make unwarranted and ill-informed criticisms of our Constitution and persist in those criticisms even after the facts are explained to them several times.

Miguel B. has a history of doing exactly that in regards to the Second Amendment.

 

I believe it was the McDonald's corporate board of directors, over which Americans, in general, have no control or influence. They obviously decided to expand their franchise operations into Australia in the interest of making profits there.

If Australians had responded by refusing to buy McDonald's products, the enterprise would have quickly collapsed due to not making any money for the parent company. Apparently that didn't happen. In fact, it appears that the Australian franchise operations of McDonald's are rater profitable, indicating that enough Australians like McDonald's products/service/whatever to support the business.

I don't understand your problem with McDonald's. I don't like their food/service, and simply don't spend my money there; problem resolved. Why don't you just do the same?

Or is it because McDonald's was originally an American idea? Is that what is bothering you?

 

It is quite funny DA watching how defensive in response to general interest or light hearted banter. Keeps me entertained anyhow.

I mean come on;

'Sounds like you need to take your own advice, I don't think anyone's after either you art or your wine.'

Thats not adding anything, just sounds a bit paranoid that somebody is attacking you. A friend of mine gave me a great piece of advice, never take anything on an internet forum personally. Now I don't always follow that advice but it's still pretty good.

 

Miguel

as to you comment about hearing Bama talk of a force independent of the military this was covered on another forum several weeks ago that Bama was trying to secure a private military force that would answer only to him.............Yikers that is not cool at all I must say. privately funded and supplied equal and even beyond what our own military carries. so does the man bring back some black panther buddies to clean the shop office ?? many of you here are too young to remember the inglorius 60's and 70's so I will not continue on the Blk panther tragedy, you can find enough scoop on those poops on wiki most probably

 

Probably not. People in the larger cities tend not to have much opportunity to get to a venue where they can practice shooting and that unfamiliarity with firearms breeds fear of them. For that reason, many people in cities don't own guns.

However, even in cities, there are people who make the effort to learn to use guns because they want to be able to defend themselves, their homes, and their families, or simply because they enjoy hunting or target shooting. In rural areas, almost everyone learns to shoot at least a rifle or shotgun and almost every home has a gun of some sort; guns are regarded as tools much like a shovel or an ax.

We live in rural Oregon where guns are very common because they are needed to deal with animal pests, and law enforcement is very thin (it might take a deputy 2-3 hours to respond to a life threatening emergency here). Both my wife and I have concealed carry licenses and sometimes carry a handgun for protection. My wife, as a mid-wife, sometimes has to drive rural roads late at night to serve her patients, and sometimes finds herself alone in questionable areas at night. As first a British subject, and then a n Australian citizen, she, of course, knew nothing about guns. The first time she fired a pistol, she was so startled that she dropped the gun. But she went to firearms classes given by the National Rifle Association (NRA) and practiced diligently, and soon became expert with her pistol.

By far, most shooting in our area is recreational in nature; hunting and target shooting, and no one thinks twice about having a gun. It's quite common to see pick-ups with guns in their gun racks and many of my neighbors carry handguns as casually as they carry cell phones. This isn't the case in large cities where perhaps 20-30% of the people own guns. I don't feel threatened by citizens carrying and using guns; in fact, I feel safer here in rural Oregon than I do in Los Angeles or San Francisco. The picture of the US and guns that people in countries like Australia receive is very much exaggerated and distorted. No one here worries about crime or being assaulted, those of us who carry guns feel that we are merely being prepared in case something bad happens. You don't expect to get a flat tire on your car, but you still carry a jack and a spare tire, it's the same with a handgun.

I also own rifles and shotguns, not because I hunt so much anymore, but because I enjoy shooting them at the range. At least two of my rifles would qualify as "assault rifles" (they really aren't, that's just the name that ignorant journalists gave them to make them seem evil). I use them for target shooting most of the time. But actually, one of the them I hardly ever see, since it rides around in the trunk of my neighbor's car. He is a Deputy Sheriff and has borrowed it because he feels it is better than the county issued shotgun he also carries.

 

POTUS electus now admits he'll have to raise taxes across the board (except for those who don't pay? Maybe they to will receive less?).
He's saying maybe (WTF) after the interim (WTF) there'll be a little (WTF) decrease for the lower (WTF) middle class only?

Another Liar. Well done sheep ... Baaaah. "Silence of the Lambs"?

How specific

Special police force? No guns? Armbands? Ring any Bells (see picture)

Real soon a T-shirt with his name on it will be as popular as a yellow "Star of David" in Berlin 1944.

 

Neither are you "adding anything". Just trying to paint me and all who defend the Second Amendment as "paranoid" and "defensive". Well, keep trying, It doesn't matter to me.

Your light hearted banter is fine, but we take some things seriously here which you obviously do not, and of which you have no understanding. I prefer not to "banter" about these things, if you have a problem with that, deal with it.

 

Private gun ownership is a strong part of American history. I myself own 3-handguns 2-shotguns and 4-rifles. This total includes 1-colt 1911a1, 2-M1 carbines, and 1-M1 Garand. I know my WW2 era rifles are on the proposed assault weapons ban that currently is being talked about. The Garand wasn't on the earlier ones but will be on the new one. These guns are fun to shoot and great pieces of history to own. As for the civilian military force that Obama brought up, all I can say is what a scary thought. I hope he puts his focus on the economy and leaves gun owners alone.