yobs not our problem say police??

so!! anti social behaviour is not a police problem,why!, it seems they want to pass the buck,its! according to a senior official,low level hooliganism and is no longer our responsibility,plain f******* daft,low levei anti social behaviour is a council problem,as the police can only hand out reprimands and warnings,oh goodie,let the country go to the dogs and lets all sit back and wait for the revolution, give us the chance to kick a**e! this country is a b****y disgrace,what is law and order then? a farce,you break the law and you get support oh! pc appears,you are the offended and have no help...angry...

 

why cant we set laws that give those that abide by the law the protection they want! and certainly by today's standards need,too many people have been prosecuted for protecting themselves or their property,and yet the criminal claims damages or assault charges? it's just ridiculous to think we can let this situation go on,what is law! what is the law doing? boot camps or serious sentences are needed to deal with these yobs,asbo's don't work nor the softly softly approach,bang em up and throw the key away....

 

I post the odd jokes for a bit of fun or a laugh,but when it comes to this statement by the police,it's probably the biggest joke to me...ray..

 

When some of our police are little more than yobs what can we expect.

 

in a few words! support! not absence! non response...

 

our police are wonderful ray..we are told constantly.. my brother as some know is one and a qgm holder for his troubles. it doesnt stop me from saying we desserve better. i had my own complaint recently upheld by the england and wales standards authority. ive dealt with the public whilst in uniform and in tight situations so know the difference when im confronted by a yob in uniform.and wouldnt have it.

 

accepted urqh,fully understand that statement,ray..

 

The real crux of the problem is the EU, they pass so many laws they only have about 10 minutes to debate them before they are rubber stamped and made law. They then get another rubber stamping from are spineless on the take politicians which results in washout laws. No wonder the police are fed up...and I'm talking about the guys on the beat here...they just feel worn down with mountains of paper work and what's the point taking these scumbags to court.

The second problem we have is our former PM Mr Blair bought in targets and fast tracked high ranking (yes men) police officers which results in another mess from the top. Many times over the years on phone in radio stations I would hear the bobby on the beat complain about these factors and they all want to get on with the job but can not.

To open this up a little the EU will break this country and once they done that the next step is a super european state. The EU has picked up where Hitler left off, the only differences is they will do it by red tape and laws and not military action. The result for us in the UK is bleak very bleak.

Standards are slipping resulting in bad apples get in to the barrel which dose not help.

 

cant say your wrong there richard,ray..

 

policing is a job as any other. no one forces any one into it. there are waiting lists to do it. weed out the bad apples and get on with the job of serving the public as yanks do. our police see you richard as the enemy. the force iS who they serve not the public as yank police and german police do. the public may give respect if the police learn the basic lessons that have dissapeared. these gung ho police shows.. how many times do you see them stop all not just the scum and treat all alike then laugh about it.

 

We have a major problem in this country now....

Standards are slipping.

No respect any more.

Dumbing down Britain.

Are to name three of our problems.

 

my brother constantly tells me the public are all just scallies... and he sees the public as one. them and us mentality sinks in if you spend your life round scallies everyone becomes a scallie and is treated like one. one day that may be you.. it was me until i stood my ground.

 

Maybe we should say..."Hello Officer." Just to show we are not all bitter and twisted.

 

Depends if you catch your officer on a good day. Then again there are enough of the if you have nothing to hide brigade of sheep around that allow the highest rate of police complaints ever recorded. They aint half of them mallicious.. Chief constables association admit it. Perhaps folk should do what they are told even if its wrong or turn a blind eye to illegal practices, i didnt as rmp i expect better and to be served better.

 

Well here there are 2 thoughts on police functions.I heard this from the governer of mountjoy prison when he was being interviewed on telly.

1.Is it the policemans job to catch criminals and punish offenders.
2.Is it the policemans job to keep the peace.

So its keep the peace versus punish the criminal.My own view is if the police cant keep the peace then they serve no purpose.

 

Well no.. Over here its the courts job to punish.. If he thinks its the police job then he doesnt know his own and jack straw needs to have urgent words with him.

 

Course mate maybe straw would be out of order.. Mountjoy.. Sorry macker..

 

I wouldnt argue against anything any of you have said. My father in law recently had a stroke and had to stay in hospital for a while. It wasnt too serious, thankfully. When we took him home someone had broken into his garage and sheds and stolen all the tools, from the lawnmower to all his DIY. Police arrived, gave a crime number, and that was that. My son was in his car when a taxi drove into the back of him. Called the local police only to have them refuse to come out, even though the taxi driver was using threatening behaviour and refused to give us his name. The only other thing to the end of the posts here, what do we honestly expect when Straws own son is let off for possesion. Or Blairs offspring being let of with drunk and disorderly, or even now "Baroness Scotland" given a meek rap over the knuckles and fined half of what she could have been, and she made the draft of law up in her governmental offices.
Them and us sum it up, unfortunately.

 

the latest figures dont include the g20 protests. one in ten complaints is carried thru to conclusion with others either dismissed not proven dealt with by internal means further training or personal officer apology with complainants agreement. of others surveyed ipc stated only one in four of those with studied reasons for complaint will actually complain and are hiding dissafection rates. discounting malicious complaints the ipc recognise that those most likely to complain are those that are not the usual names. the ipc have pointed out to the police that these people are the very law abiding people that should be counted as friends. fifty five percent of complaints are registered against officers serving less than ten years service.

 

Heres a really bad one where I tried to help.
My partner and I were on our way home from a dinner party at friends and decided to walk home. Summers night.
As we approached our home there was one man punching and kicking the hell out of another. Ruth ran in and went to phone the police. But someone else had already called. The victim of the assault was beaten quite badly and was sitting on a shallow wall. The perpetrator had legged it when I had shouted over. Within seconds of the police arriving five officers dragged the victim onto the ground, face down and sat on him, while one cuffed him behind his back. So I went over and said politely that they had the wrong man. I was told to back off. With a frontal hand gesture from the officer while he put one hand on his belt. Now I had a collar and tie on, looked respectable and was not threatening in any way shape or form. I said ok, but you have the wrong man. They proceded to follow me to my house and there threatened me with arrest if I didnt tell them what I saw and who the perpetrator was. And give my name and address. The way they dragged the bloke down when he was obviously in trouble breathing was disgusting. Not one of them took it on face value what I had said about the other person. And nobody went to look for him. Its little wonder this countries going to the dogs. The criminals are getting away while the easy target gets the consequences.