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Luftwaffe over New York

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  1. Ken The Kanuck

    Ken The Kanuck Member

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    But is it true ?

    The internet appears divided.
     
  3. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    According to Wikipedia, neither flew till Oct. 1943 so the report is false unless the plane came with a time machine installed. They also mention Area 51, enough said:)
     
  4. Erich

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    yes I covered it with the members here at length. look for the title FAGr 5 and although this woman claims she flew from Norway it never happened, US east coast radar would of picked up the bogey.

    the story is utter nonsense. the Ju 390 did not have the range to even get to Labrador let alone New York. this was due in part the story that is from supposed POW interviews of captured crews of FAGr 5. and thanks to this myth former author William Green pushed it further with his many editions of the big book Warplanes of the 3rd Reich. Incidentally FAGr 5 only used the Ju 290A variants for low level sea recon work in aid with the KM U-Boot arm one of the very few times the LW and KM worked side by side from 1943-1944.

    Ju 390A range was 4500km according to author Sönke Neitzel as the Ju 390s were to fly from FAGr 5's base at Monte Marsan off the central coast of France.
     
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    I myself had heard stories about the supposed flight, but usually the end with the plane turning back just within sight of the coast.
     
  6. Vinny Maru

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    Specs in that article are overstated vastly according to my books. Was marginally larger than a B-29 with only a 6000 mi recon range (12k round trip) not the 18000 stated in the article.

    The bit about the Horton v9 (Ho IX?) isn't a model of accuracy as the plane only flew a total of two hours before crashing.


    Already rebutted while I was searching.
     
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    The answer is easy, it was the captured JU 390 at Area 51, with an Alien time machine that flew over New York!
     
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    I repeat........the Ju 390 could do 4500km and that is it. realize all that the Norway area is farther than even FAGr 5's central coast of France. The story is bogus.........
     
  9. formerjughead

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    I am thinking that if Germany had something to reach the US with they would have put something on it besides cameras.
     
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    remember the A-Bomb idea that Germany was suppose to have been creating, how were they going to carry out this mission even with the Me 264 which only had a 1000km more than the Ju 390 and it still could not reach New York with that.

    nuff said the gal is off the planet and so is her story.
     
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    I supposed I should have guessed it. I mention Area 51, Aliens, Time Machines and Nazi's all in one post and Brad's radar is tripped!:) The only thing I forgot is the base in Antartica:)
     
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    sorry bud but it was on Greenland the KM did not put weather stations there for no reason at all .......... ha !
     
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    T. A. Gardner Genuine Chief

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    The whole story is utter BS. No citations, and the author gets lots of generally known facts just plain wrong.
     
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    Wow , nice to you back here, it's been ages!

    Thanks for the link. I should have remembered KG200 . I think I read this in P.W Stahl's book "Geheim Geschwader"
     
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    a couple points this was not the standard Ju 290 used to make the so-called NY atempt as this had been altered with a huge aux fuel tank. Plus the flight to Bermuda and then to the US make a couple days journey not a one way as told in the mythical story during the war.

    KG 200 used the A/C for agent drops and this was the Ju 290's that were intercepted by US 9th AF P-61's during late 44-45.
     
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    Thanks Skipper !

    although a two-leg ferry flight as Erich says, they did go the long way ! According to Watson's calculations at an average speed of 300 km/h and an altitude of 3,000 metres, the Ju 290 possessed an endurance of some 16 to 18 hours and a range of around 4,800 kilometres, thanks to the 3,800 litre supplementary fuel tank in the fuselage.. Watson’s co-pilot Captain Fred McIntosh wrote an account of the flight published in Sweeting's 'Hitler's Squadron'. The first leg of the journey –some 3,700 km - took nine hours and 10 minutes - and the second leg just seven hours.
     

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