Top 10 tanks of the war

As for Korea, the Easy Eights used were upgunned and probably uparmored. Also the Russians probably did not give them there best tanks. As for Syria, the Sherman used there was nothing like the WWII Sherman it was the "Super Sherman" which was incredibly upgunned and uparmored to a point where it did not all all resemble the Sherman of WWII.

I am sorry that I seemed to have upset so many people by saying that, I was just making the point I wasn't taking into consideration the crews but that the people in the tanks were just equal...

First of all, I know everything you are talking about with the Panther and other German tanks, I just didn't want to get into the Panther but rather focus on the Sherman and T-34. The thing is that the those tanks did not go slow at all (except for the tiger which still wasn't that slow), the Jagdpanther ad the Panther went faster than a lot of other tanks including the Sherman. Another thing though, I don't feel that the Sherman was the worst tank of the war, nor do I have any special feelings towards German tanks, I just think the Jagdtiger looks cool.

And as for my name being JagdtigerI not II, that is just becase JagdtigerII was taken.

 

Weeeee, here we go

The Jagptiger was a useless weapon anyway, and if I remember correctly on'y 25 were built and used in combat, prone to mechanical problems, slow (as usual), high fuel consumption (as usual), the same interlocking tracks as the panther (clogging), and basically against infantry it was eaisly overrun and had mines or charges attached to the tracks or engine, thats just of the top of my head.

 

The M4A3E8 "Easy Eight" used the 76mm gun and was not uparmored. So it was the late WWII version that engaged the T-34/85s. Both WWII issued tanks. And what do you mean about the USSR not giving them the "Best" tanks? They did not break down or become unusable. They were engaged in combat and destroyed by a tank that you consider inferior. "Anyone who thinks that the Sherman with its weak, low velocity 75mm, and light unsloped armor would defeat a T-34/85 is insane." You did not specify which version of Sherman either. Which one? The early war 75mm version. Mid war? Or the late war version? The "Easy Eight" late war version has shown it could have and did.

 

Did I do something to indicate that the Jadgtiger was extremely good or something??

I realize everything you are saying, but it looks cool does it not...

 

I respect your opinion, however I disagree.
The JagdPanther, now thats a cool looking vehicle!

 

It sure looks capable of serious ownage...even if it sucked...

 

On the JadgTiger: 150 were ordered, 75 were completed (want the werk numbers?). They served officially in just two panzerjäger abteilung; the 653rd and 512th. Both saw action exclusively on the Western Front, the 653rd facing the US 3rd Army for the most part and the 512th, the US 9th Army.
A few, three or four might have saw action against the Russians in the last few days of the war when the St. Valentine plant in Austria where they were being assembled was about to be overrun. Scratch crews grabbed the few finished vehicles and drove them into action. But, accounts are sketchy as to what they did.

 

I dont suppose it counts, but I'm rather fond of the SU 152. It just looks meaner than hell.

 

Now that is actually capable of serious ownage.

 

thankyou mate, I was not completely sure as to the operational numbers. Everyone keeps saying 'Jadgpanther' Ok whihc one?

 

Well your avatar, name and "it looks cool does it not" says a lot about that.

Just because something looks cool dosn't make it the best mate, the Jadgtiger may look devastasting or "cool" but it was a failure, Hitlers obsession with "Biggest is best" is far from cool, purely looking at it in a military view.

Ok to the Sherman vs the T-34, read the above, then we shall discuss, only with some proper facts and timeframes can be even begin to compare.

 

I call your JSU 152 and trump with the Semovente 47/32



At least it's open top, so it's cool in winter.

 

I am trying to figure out where the sensible discussion stands... I am lost.

 

I know!!!!
But the first time I laid eyes on it, before I knew anything about it, I said "wow, that looks cool" and that is the only reason why it is my name and avatar. I realize it as a failure and had no effect on the war.


As for the stuff JCF said, I would like to see a concrete source.

 

But actually back to the Jagdtiger...
what do you guys think would happen if a Jagdtiger (completely functional) was to face off with a SU-152?

 

Stands or ends? lol

 

A very slow, slobber knocker match

 

I would like to see what a 152mm shell could do to a JagdTiger, I would say the SU-152 would win as it has a lower profile.

 

A lower profile with half the armor, I take the Tiger.

 

Guys, don't overdo the JSU-152 abilities. The AP round was basically a large chunk of not very high grade of steel and low velocity, so it's armour piercing abilities were rather limited. Remember this was an assault gun, not an AT system, there were other systems more suited, like the JSU-122 (tactically the SU-152 and SU-122 were interchangeable), the SU-85 and the mighty SU-100.

The idea behind the 152mm slug was that it might not penetratre, but the wallop would be strong enough to at least wrench something out of it's socket and buckle anything that it hit. And the crew inside would be completely out of their senses, we are talking of a 50kg steel chunk fired at 600 m/s which at closer range would simply wrench a turret off