Bletchley Park decodes: Concentration Camp figures published for Auschwitz

Bletchley Park Concentration Camp figures published for Auschwitz

Ladies and Gentlemen, fellow WW2 researchers:

I am pleased to announce to the WWII Forums community, our launch of a brand new British, Historical Revisionist Website.

We are a UK based team of academics, historians, scientists, campaigners and ordinary people whose aim is to present facts, encourage debate, educate and to become the UK's focus for Revisionist activity and discussion.

Our website presently consists of numerous links to the wide and growing library of Revisionist resources available on the internet and one or two articles of our own.

Additionally, we are publishing for the first time ever, original archival documents, produced by the cryptanalysts at Britain's wartime code breaking centre, Bletchley Park.

Professor Sir Frank Hinsley's Revelation:

Since the publication in 1981 of F. H. Hinsley’s multi-volume official history, British Intelligence in the Second World War, it has been known that British Intelligence had been intercepting and decoding radio messages sent by the “German Order Police” - the Ordnungspolizei or ORPO.

Hinsley also revealed that these decoded messages yielded significant and primary source details of the “daily prisoner returns”, transmitted by the various concentration camp establishments to the controlling camp bureaucracy.

We owe a great debt of gratitude to all of the staff who served at Bletchley Park, England and to the analysts in Poland who first broke the GPCC cyphers. In honour of the Polish and Bletchley Park code breakers, the work of Hut 6 speaks to the world today:

Some original documents are available for viewing immediately, some can be downloaded in their original form and some have been transcribed. More will be added in the near future.

We begin today, by publishing all of the available inmate statistics for Auschwitz, in their original form.

We encourage to you to visit our website and share this new historic information far and wide, as the "orthodox" examination of these "concentration camp vital statistics" has been, rather predictably, woefully lacking. You can read about that on our website, with a fuller analysis to follow.

By publishing the documents to a worldwide audience, without fear or favour, we hope to educate our audience with the facts as they were decoded and recorded seventy years ago.

The original announcement was made at the CODOH forum here: http://forum.codoh.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7581

We welcome your analysis, comments and feedback on the site and these historic documents.

Thank you.

Horhug.

What really happened?

 

I personally believe this thread should be closed as soon as possible, I'm just simply tired of these guys and won't engage them.

 

How many Jews in Europe prior to the war? How many Jews afterwards?

Arithmetic is not a debatable issue.

 

f. .u. c. .k off you Holocaust dening c. u. n.t .

 

Wessex you put Oscar wilde to shame. I cannot believe that there are still people dumb enough to believe this pretend Nazi shite, if I believed in hell twats like this would surely and deservedly burn there.

 

The territory they currently choose to hang their hats on has been pretty well-covered. The decrypts have been available since c.1997, and Dr Nicholas Terry wrote an excellent assessment of them in relation to the overall historiography:
˜Conflicting Signals: British Intelligence on the 'Final Solution' through Radio Intercepts and Other Sources, 1941-1942, Yad Vashem Studies XXXII, 2004, pp. 351-396 | Nicholas Terry - Academia.edu
(Though doubtless Yad vashem attached to the heading will be seen as an inbuilt bias by some; Dr. Terry stands firmly on his own feet in the field, and it is hardly surprising YV sponsors many conferences etc. in the overall field, just as other Museums, organisations etc. are involved in work in their particular areas, whether that's the Holocaust or not. )

No research based purely on decrypts can be considered to give a complete picture.
Almost no operational or political decision of WW2 based on decrypts could be said to be based on anything other than a partial glimpse of enemy activity - so why would they be given such weight, now, by anyone... Unless a substantial axe was being ground?
Hardly a neutral or particularly logical sceptical stance to present decrypts as other than what they are.

~A

Cross-posted with Owen...

Pithy as ever, mate .

 

Anybody who references CODOH in their post should be laughed off the forum, and some cooler time if not outright banning. This is just denial revisionism, and not well disguised.

 

My fellow forum brothers and sisters... You have my permission to pull out your guns... Cock it back and watch it blow....


I'm sorry Horhug but you have come to the wrong place... We don't appreciate the pathetic rubbish you call "research". Here at ww2f we base our reseach on 2 very important elemants... FACTS and EVIDENCE.. Something your people choose to ignore. So before you claim yourself to be a "researcher" you should pick up the dictionary and address the meaning of those two words.

 

I had rather assumed that the chaps at Bletchley Park had provided some high value, primary source, "facts and evidence" of historic value that may have promoted some further enquiry by this community.

 

Well so far I think we can both agree the reception here so far on this issue is not looking good in your favor

 

The war time correspondents who amassed a great deal of photographic evidence that exists in most major libraries of the United States, provides more than enough evidence to turn the website(of the Revisionists) completely into a perpetuation of a falsehood. If you like you can select the photographic works of one Alfred Hitchcock and view enough evidence by this later to be established renowned film maker.

[video]http://www.documentarytube.com/an-alfred-hitchcock-documentary-on-the-nazi-holocaust[/video]





I would also add that knowing this early job Alfred Hitchcock obtained experience at..... may have been what created in him such an ample genius for taking his viewers on a truly horror filled experience.

 

OK. Bletchley Park intercepted data on persons entering and exiting the camps. How is that evidence of anything? We know how they entered (through the gate) and we know how they exited (up the chimneys). There are hundreds of thousands of pages of documented evidence from the people who did the killing. They talked about it. They provided facts, figures, dates, numbers and every kind of detail imaginable - all of which is verified by captured documents.

And YOU REALLY THINK that some sparse returns decoded by Bletchley Park calls this into question somehow? Can you explain to us how these intercepts shed new light on anything, because all I see on your link is some vague statements with nothing to support them.

 

Disgusting.

 

I had not intended to enter this thread and hoped that, if we ignored it, it would quietly fade away. Since that ship has sailed already, actually it appears to have run down a Fishing boat and is about to enter the Bermuda Triangle, I guess I will weigh in.

Hohug, you are entitled to your opinion and I will respect your right to promote it, on your own website or forum. You will have a place here only if you are capable of defending your arguments on this forum.To this point I have seen nothing that impresses me greatly other than you rejoinder to explore your web site.

While you have the right to propose your opinion, or those of others, we have no obligation to spend out time there, nor are we intellectual 'Luddites' because we choose to spend our time more profitably rather than peruse a subject we generally find repulsive.

I have examined your 'home' page, and to be honest I find suspect a page that spends more space explaining what it isn't than what it is, in my personal opinion.

I am glad to see some rogues post who have been absent for awhile because of this subject, but I concur with Clint. Little good can come of this thread if it remains open and respectfully advise it be closed soon unless the OP begins to offer cogent and sane counter arguments to the questions raised by our members.

I would not, however, send this thread to the Latrine. The link is not malicious to the safety of our forum members, just their sanity. Anyone who desires to seek an alternative interpretation to accepted facts should have the right to fall down into that rabbit hole if they choose.

Just be sure you leave bread crumbs [SIZE=3]so you can fin[SIZE=3]d your way back again.[/SIZE][/SIZE]

 

Lovely weather we're having, bright and crisp outside.
What's the weather like where you are?

 

If they are really interested in decrypts..they could start at the Enigma2000 site and look thru their voluminous monthly updates...The real information on decrypts, methods, who, etc and references but not in great numbers can be found in those. Including the Volunteer interceptors story. BUT That I suppose would take some real research, searching and a bit of hard work.

Remind me...It was Holocaust memorial day yesterday wasn't it...Cant wait for May and September to come back round...Revision is only revision if you have something new to say and revise...the clue is in the word revision...Pity you lot of Nutjobs have tainted the word.

The enemy is still with us gentlemen....Poopy...pass me the blunderbuss.

 

I've run out of rusty sixpences, it'll have to be the old rock-salt & some fresh nails I'm afraid.


Clouded over now, think it may rain.