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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by urqh, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. KodiakBeer

    KodiakBeer Member

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    Leaving Alex Jones aside, photos and video of the actual perps are now out there. Thousands of people who were there are now looking through their own pictures and so we should expect to see a lot more pictures come to light in the next 24 hours.

    It's just too bad it took three days to get these images out. They could be back in the Middle East by now.
     
  2. Takao

    Takao Ace

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    Really Poppy,

    The whole article is a joke. beginning with the fourth sentence.
    Turned around, it could read

    Infowars/Alex Jones isn’t interested in the truth; they only want to spin the attack into a new way to somehow blame the government for something they had no part in.


    All of these points are a matter of, say it with me, con-jec-ture.
    1. The photo is so blurry, it's hard to tell how the men "look". But to me, the look neither "shocked" or "surprised", but grim and determined.
    2. How can this photo be clear enough to determine that the men look "shocked, even surprised", but not be clear enough to be able to determine the difference between a pistol and a radiation detector?
    3. Same as #2.
    4. The only thing possibly factual here. But, gee, using an expensive private security firm at a very large and well known public event(and possible target) that is too large for Police presence to reasonably cover. Nah that would never happen...


    As to carrying and using a radiation detector. Apparently they have never heard of the words "dirty bomb" before. While scientists continue to debate how effective a dirty bomb would be, any large outside gathering seems like the ideal place to put one to the test. I would not be surprised if there were chem and bio detectors being used also.


    The whole "The Craft" did it, is all a "red herring", it was really the men in the black helicopters that dropped the backpacks the night before. Wait, or was it the planes creating the "chem trails."

    Well...Hell, the "bomb bag" resembles the backpacks some of my friends wore in high school, maybe they did it. Oh, Snap! The backpack resembles the one I had in high school, maybe I did it. Wait that was almost a quarter of a century ago and it was dark blue. Whew, safe, but it was a close one.


    Photos can be faked, guess these idiots never heard of, nor know how to use Adobe Photoshop. How do I know these photos are not faked to prove a point. Photos are no longer the reliable evidence they once were.

    Actually, I believe they are called "circumstantial evidence."

    Evidence, would show these men carrying the backpacks to the vicinity, dropping them off, the men leaving, and the backpacks exploding.

    Call me a doubter, call me a nay-sayer, but this photo
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    and the guys in the top half of this photo
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    seem to have been taken AFTER the explosion...Not before.

    Only the guys in the bottom half appear to have been taken before.


    Correct, it tells me they were not involved.


    Poppy,
    perhaps this forum would be more to your liking.
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/
    It's jam-packed of conspiracy theory, government cover-ups, etc.
     
  3. Poppy

    Poppy grasshopper

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    KB, which images are you referring? ...I must be newb, because no one else wants to post links. Have asked previously if copy paste is acceptable. Just want to abide by the rules/laws, seeings how this guy[moi] seems to stick his neck out prolly too often.
     
  4. Takao

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    Thank you MrT for your patience and time writing that bit. It's obvious you are an educated and experienced gentleman...Someday I hope to contribute logical and entertaining posts. Cheers.
     
  6. Poppy

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    The best bit of cohesive info yet . Way to put a cap on it Mr T... Like the guys who take command with the info right away. Shows experience. ..That's what we need is leadership, definitive, clear, concise info during times of crisis... Not some nut quoting Alex Jones. lol
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Nothing to do with this thread really...And I see this morning things have moved on dramatically, but Boston citizens can now see what UK mainland as well as Irish citizens have been suffering in the past from terrorism. What the folk of Boston are currently living with is what all Citizens of the UK were forced to live with at the heights of the troubles..And still the money and support flowed. Perhaps it will take such an outrage to stem for good any support and finance that still to this day flows.
     
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    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    Just watching Swat on BBC1 outside brothers house...Errr....Go Swat...
     
  11. urqh

    urqh Tea drinking surrender monkey

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    I'm with TD Tommy on this...Why Boston..comes to my mind all the time..If Chechenya, then why not carry on hitting Moscow or Russia...I know we in west had links..but Boston??? It has to be really something locally specific in that case...But more probably Tommy's explanation..but looks like we are about to find out.
     
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    Perhaps it is not a matter of nationalism or ethnicity. There is another factor, a large group that has shown open hostility to the US for at least 33 years.
     
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    One bomber down, one to go!

    Chechen's?
     
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    The more we learn about these two brothers, the less clear is any motive. They were permanent residents, had their green cards, and their Dad back in Russia (Chechnia?)thought they were medical students in Boston.

    I do wonder where this will end up.
     
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    No motive? They are Jihadis, plain and simple.
     
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    The Uncle calls them losers, sounding much like goth nihilists.
     
  17. KodiakBeer

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    The older brothers social network sites have a number of posts about Islam, links to a Jihadi propaganda video, etc.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/19/the-sheikh-who-may-have-influenced-boston-s-tsarnaev-brothers.html




     
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    Same old song, feed them , give them an education, insurance and this is how they thank you...... if they weren't happy with the Americans, why did they leave their country in the first place? Oh , yes they didn't like the Russians either. :insane:
     
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    It is totally not that simple, at least not yet. Some media mentions that the brothers seem to take an interest in Islam and recent years but it doesn't always follow that it is Jihad. The definition Jihad itself is something that the Muslim community is extremely divided on, for example, in the canonical Hadith there is a Sunnah that essentially states that "Jihad is the word of justice in the face of an unjust ruler". I can't help but think of the noble cause of the Arab spring when I read that. The rebels fighting in Syria right now are considered Jihadis by many Muslims.

    I am a student of religion and I cringe when I see what minorities do to larger groups. It sucks when stupid uneducated Muslim fanatics shout "death to America" and kill themselves and others in the name of Allah, in the same vein it sucks when stupid uneducated Christian fanatics shout "Thank'yeh Jesus" when they hear that abortion doctors get murdered or their clinics blown up, or when they do it themselves. The worst part about both cases? These people are the most sincere believers in their religions, and you can read the exact parts in their scriptures that are interpreted to justify the most hideous of crimes against humanity.
     
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    It seems pretty simple to me. We can play the PC game and pretend they are just misunderstood yoots, but I don't buy it. One has been exterminated and the quicker they get the other one, the happier I'll be.
     

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