Kind of a info request but fits more here I guess.

Hey Guys long time no see eh? Well I am posting here because I recently was browsing through this website that has an in-depth listing of supposed World War II UFO sightings... bear with me here

The link is here if you are interested: http://www.nicap.org/waves/1939-1946.htm

I am specifically looking for help with regards to info on two things from that article that I find dubious

1. Was there a ship involved in the Normandy Landings named the USS George E. Badger? All I found was the SS George E. Badger...

and

2. Is there a town in Germany called Habbebishopsheim? I was reading one of the "sightings" reports that lists it

Text from site: "1945; Habbebishopsheim, Germany
An American soldier saw a disk-shaped object come down rapidly, oscillate, and land. The site could not be found in the dark. The event took place 35 km northwest of the town. (Magonia #52, Atic)"

Is this a real location? And is there anything more about this event? I know its a damn crazy story, but I would like to find more info on it.

I apologize if this is in the wrong forum area, And I don't believe in aliens or the like but just like to see and read about the crazy things that come up about WWII every now and then.

 

Your Google-Fu is weak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_George_E._Badger_%28DD-196%29
She never took part in the Normandy invasion, as she was sailing for the Pacific at the time.

Likely a misspelling, there are two that I know of Bischofsheim and Bischofsheim an der Rhon.

 

Ahh sorry Takao should have elaborated on the Badger, I knew about the one from the Pacific you posted as well as the other Badger that was a liberty ship at Normandy, I thought there might have been another though.... guess not.

Thanks though!

 

I think I can clear up the German sighting...Monty was stuck around the wetlands of the north...dykes opened etc...difficult accessible roads..but before the infamous Market Garden meeting of the higher command...It was necessary for Patton to give his reasons for priority on supply over any British expidition...Ike got to Monty before the roads closed in torrential rain behind him...Patton though and I know a lot of you yanks will not beleive this...was stuck..and contary to popular belief...Patton could not walk on water..I know...its a shock to some of you...but true none the less...So what to do?

Being a god like creature not of the mold of simple folk like us...He rose to the heavens...Slid along a cloud or two...and desencded in a halo of light never seen before...with appropriate music for the masses...To which Ike responded...couldn't you get a taxi George..
No Ike...people expect me to make an entrance..anyone seen my pistols..
No...seriously like UFO's its true..and if you know of George Patton, you'll know I tell no lies...

 

Haha thanks for the laughs urqh!


I find the report dubious not only due to lack of info, and well it sounds damn crazy but also nothing comes up on Google except that excerpt I posted, over and over from different websites.

 

Then it would be a another "typo" just like the German town.

Ahh, typo cinfirmed
http://books.google.com/books?id=hzqr2qcn2nMC&pg=PT52&lpg=PT52&dq=%22SS+George+E.+Badger%22,+ufo&source=bl&ots=WO5nyYp7b2&sig=CCnddK_brIEWADSX45nySOKrAj8&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MTSoUdz3D4nx0wHfioCwBw&ved=0CCoQ6AEwAA
It is the Liberty ship and not a "USS" warship.

 

Oh so it was a typo makes sense, Trying the two towns you posted in regards to question two did not turn up anything useful though or related to the subject.

 

It is unlikely that they would, since the misspelling is likely from the original source.

"Habbebishopsheim" is always taken from "The Magonia Database: A Century of UFO Landings (1868-1968)" by Jacques Vallee and published in his book "Passport to Magonia", and can be viewed in it's entirety here: http://www.ufoinfo.com/magonia/index.shtml
Since the "Habbebishopsheim" passage is presumably sourced to the ATIC(Air Technical Intelligence Center), the misspelling was likely included in their report/s.

 

View attachment 18906 I didn't want to go there...but find enclosed...Official RAF involvement in the UFO scene...Urqh can be seen....I was complaining..As I appeared to have the heavy end as you can see...

 

I guess "Habbebishopsheim" could be "Tauberbischofsheim" which on the Tauber River is south of Wuerzburg. There is (was) a German barracks there and a troop training area.

 

Thanks for that link Takao, that explanation makes sense. I checked the link and noticed it had ATIC at the end like you pointed out, What I noticed though is that ATIC was not formed till 1951. So I guess they heard of it after the war.

Also MLW thanks for that bit of information, I will read up about that town. EDIT: Saw it on Wikimapia which describes it having a location that was formerly called Hindenburg Barracks which was used by the SS and then became a U.S Army Base, looks like much has been torn down. More here: http://wikimapia.org/13157988/Former-Hindenburg-Barracks

LOL Urqh!

 

Before it was called the ATIC, it was the Technical Intelligence Division of the Intelligence Department of the Air Material Command.

Although, if you are bored
http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/declass/ufo/index.shtml
http://vault.fbi.gov/UFO

or you can look through the "motherlode" at
http://www.bluebookarchive.org/browse.aspx

 

Thanks for those links, I am off from work today so I will check those out, Thanks again!

 

NP, let us know if you find out the location or true name of "Habbebishopsheim", because now I am curious.

 

Sure I will look through the files and update this post here if I find anything.

 

Hindenburg Barracks (Kaserne) was in Wuerzburg, not Tauberbischofsheim.

 

Ah thanks for the correction MLW, I put Tauberbischofsheim into Google and typed barracks alongside it and that was one of the hits at first, my mistake.


EDIT: Was able to find via this source: http://civilianmilitaryintelligencegroup.com/11070/assorted-ufos-sighted-by-the-military that the month of the event at "Habbebishopsheim", was in April 1945.

EDIT 2: Found this source that has a supposed location of the incident http://thecid.com/ufo/uf18/uf8/188943.htm click the link that directs to Google Maps. Something does not seem right about the location though... I will keep looking.

EDIT 3: Found another source that is a German UFO Databank:http://www.ufo-datenbank.de/europa/Deutschland/liste.php?jahr=1900-1946 Scroll down and you will see it listed, what is interesting is that Habbebishopsheim is listed five times in 1945 although no specific month or day or specific details are given. Between these reports was one from 1945 that occurred in Bischofsheim

 

Habbebishopsheim. Germany, when typed into Google Earth, produces a notice " did you mean Tauberbischofsheim" which I did not but no place to object in GoogleWorld. I suspect aliens are in control of all Google matters, hence, all of us but some more so than others from reading forums.

This is very disappointing as usually UFO's land in a swamp in Mississippi and speak or abduct some illiterate locals where as if some one could locate Habbebishopsheim then some creditable witnesses may still be alive.

Personally I prefer urgh's insightful explanation as it has a closer ring of truth to it. Plus it being in original English helps it's credibility.

 

Thanks for the insight gtblackwell, the link to one of the websites on a previous post of mine that provides a specific location when clicked on for the incident shows up as


"Neu Wokern 28
17166 Groß-Wokern, Germany ‎ 681 m W"

Not sure what that amounts too.

EDIT: Continuing with additional info on the "event" at "Habbebishopsheim" showed via this link http://thecid.com/ufo/geo/geo/1419.htm that the time was 19:45

 

"EDIT 2: Found this source that has a supposed location of the incident http://thecid.com/uf.../uf8/188943.htm click the link that directs to Google Maps. Something does not seem right about the location though... I will keep looking."

The map is very wrong. It selects a location in northeast Germany near the polish border.

Regards, Marc