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Russian Warships off the coast of Australia

Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by CAC, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    You give him too much credit. It'll take a lot more to ruin the USA than what he's done pal.
     
  2. lwd

    lwd Ace

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    Great leader? Let me guess you also consider Stalin and Hitler to be great leaders as well? Crimea wasn't Russian and Russia had signed a formal treaty acknowledgeing that. Putin violated that treaty and Russia is and will continue to suffer for it for some time.

    Since this is your first post it's possible you just had a bad day or are suffering some level of inebriation but continued posts like this will have us wondering which or possibly which combination of the following you fit under:
    1) Ignorant.
    2) Under the bridge dweller.
    3) Metally challenged.
    4) Fanatic/beleiver

    YouTube as a source??? Really???? It makes Wiki look like a fantastic source.
     
  3. lwd

    lwd Ace

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    Really? That's certainly not the impression I've recieved and I've been on several boards with quite a few European posters. Now I'll admit that some have not thought well of some of our presedents but "hatred and disgust"???

    I rather doubt that. The Russians don't have a navy that can do it on a regular basis.

    What former glory? Do you mean when they defeated Napoleon? Can't think of any thing else other than perhaps the Crimean war that would qualify. When you are as riddled with corruption as the Russians are spending more doesn't mean all that much. Indeed looks like even the Chinese can give them lessons in producing qualtiy gear.

    Sounds like your average third world country or maybe a little better than average.

    Not keeping up with current events much are you. Russia is if not in close to a crisis now and the economies of the West are improving on a daily basis.

    That certainly remains to be seen. At the very least it's prevented the Russians from taking more of the Ukraine and it's entirely possible that it shall result in the fall of the Putin's governement.
     
  4. lwd

    lwd Ace

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    Oh great, someone else who can't figure out how to use the quote function. It's really not that hard you know. It's also possible to edit your post for a while afterwards to fix problems like this.

    Or not, mostly or not. I see you are ignoring the import of exports as well.

    Sounds like you need to read a bit more from trustworthy sources. The EU did just go through a period where several of the countries had significant economic issues. That doesn't mean the EU is bankrupt however. Indeed that looks like it's been avoided and even the countries with big problems are seeing economic improvements from what I 've read. Russia on the other hand is currently on a downward spiral and as oil prices drop their options become more and more limited. They've also managed to alianate just about everyone who could really help with the possible exception of the Chinese and their help likely comes at a price and possibly one the Russians will live to regret.
     
  5. lwd

    lwd Ace

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    No that's not an issue that's your fantasy.
     
  6. RAM

    RAM Member

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    Another bragging bigmouth that knows nothing.
    How many russian customers do you have? How many times have you visited Russia during the last two decades?
    Zero? Zilch? Nil?

    I have done business with those guys since the early nineties, after the downfall of the Soviet Union. I speak to those guys, if not daily so on a regular basis. I have visited Russia once or twice a year since the nineties, and I have seen the enormous improvement they have achieved in their way of living.
    From what you are writing, it is obvious that you know nothing about Russia, nor do you know much about european economy or politics.
    Have nice day!
     
  7. Karjala

    Karjala Don Quijote

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    I have visited in Russia about a dozen times since 1985. The last time was in 2012. I also live in Finland, where a lot of Russian tourists come all the time. The number of them and the money they spend are everyday news. Also the news of the many Finnish companies, which make business there and/or export something are closely monitored.

    Sure - things have been improving since the early 1990's - at least in the bigger cities. In the countryside not much have changed - at least not for the better. That unequal improvement has mainly been achieved because of the high oil and gas prices - without much/any change in the economic structures. Now the prices for oil and gas have sunk - and are going to stay low for long.

    At the moment the number of Russian tourists have plummeted by 20-30 %. Also the money those who still come spend is clearly smaller. The Rouble is just so weak at the moment. Many Finnish companies are in trouble because of losses in Russia and weak demand. The Russians simply can't afford anything foreign any more. Foreign companies are withdrawing from Russia - it's just too risky.

    To claim that everything is business as usual in the Russian economy is plain stupid. Update you knowledge until you continue with your illusions.
     
  8. von_noobie

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    RAM quite simply is a fanatic, He has given me the impression that Russia is always in the right, that everything is going perfectly for them yet refuses to believe the fact's nor provide fact's to back his own claim.

    Russia was improving, though said improvement was actually slowing down below government expectations before all the sh** hit the fan. Yes Russia could be self reliant but to do so would make the ruble worth less then what it is at the moment, Russians would be able to survive within Russia but would not have the funds to travel abroad or import anything of use. The Russian economy is heavily reliant on said natural resource exports, Between sanctions and low prices the Russian economy is collapsing, hence Russia is going down the dunny.

    Russia has a history of picking on the little guy, From Finland in 1939/40, To in recent times Georgia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine (Not quite little but smaller then Russia), And in every single case Russia has been or is currently in the wrong. Russia isn't some country to be admired, Under the current administration that has used the system to stay in power longer then they were meant to, Russia has become a bully that needs to be knocked on its a**.

    In any case RAM will just rant and rave saying Russia the greatest and the West just made up of propaganda, I personally will try and refrain from dumbing my self down to that level.

    Cheers, v_n.
     
  9. green slime

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    OMG!

    Once or twice a year! To Russia!

    Since the nineties even!

    Well, that obviously make you an expert on European economy and politics, doesn't it!

    Please enlightened one, continue your tirade. Expound upon your theories of European economy, and explain how we will all be dominated by the Russian bear in 10 years.



    I need a good laugh.
     
  10. lwd

    lwd Ace

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    Nothing I said can in any reasonable way be construed as bragging so you are clearly wrong there. Personal insults aren't considered to be a good manners on this board by the way.

    This is rather clearly off base as well. Let's keep track and see if you get anything right.

    And just how important is this? While some could indeed pull some valid information from activities such as these one could also miss a lot. Reading relevant reports from reliable sources is a better way of understanding something as complex as national econoies.

    Well given the incredible biases I've seen in your statements even if the above is true I'm not inclined to trust your judgement very much.

    Only to a believer stuck in his fantasy world.
     
  11. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Aaaagh me hearties! There be thread pirates aboard the good ship...scurvy dogs! The plank for the lot!
    See yonder? Some tinnie ships being pestering our borders, prepare to repel lads! Gimme that spy-scope lad....Aaaagh! Blue blistiering barnacles! It be the Russkies! Come to steal our woman and horses no doubt...stand down men...that Russkies listing to port...lower the long boats!
     
  12. green slime

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    I'm sure it's only the horses. Remember, LJAd has proven the superiority of the horse over the truck in Russia.
     
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    Where do the Russians keep all those horses aboard ship?

    120,000 horsepower is a lot of horses...Not to mention that 120,000 horses will produce about 3,000 tons of excrement a day.
     
  14. lwd

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    I will resist the tempation to carry that train of thought any further lest I get personal.
     
  15. green slime

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    This comment cracked me up so bad, my sides hurt.
     
  16. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    I know right!? : )
     
  17. lwd

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    I would get personal too if I knew that little about a great nation like Russia.
     
  19. RAM

    RAM Member

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    This is utter propaganda. I wonder if 'lwd' is an abbreviation for Lavatory Waste Disposal?
    That means that the saying 'Garbage in - Garbage out' is still valid.

    I spoke to my business associates in Moscow and St. Petersburg and told them about this conversation about Russia on this forum.
    They laughed and told me to bring their wishes for a happy new year to all forum members, and tell you that they are doing just fine and that Vladimir Putin has an enormuos support within the russian population.
    Meanwhile you can listen to the lies of the lame duck muslim president occupying the Oval Office.
     
  20. von_noobie

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    Great nation like Russia? A military rusting away, An economy being flushed down the dunny, Corruption to the extreme, Picking only on the nations that are smaller and weaker not that that always works... Yea Russia so bloody Great.

    A Great nation doesn't need to try and convince others that it is, A great nation can sit back and let others see that it is the case, A great nation has a flourishing economy, A great helps the weak rather then picks on them, A great nation doesn't need to invade another nation to appease their own citizens.

    Russia is a bully gasping for air, Been around long enough trying to do as they please but in doing so all the little 'weak' nations are uniting, Meant to be a democracy but apparently a large portion of Russians want to still use the Hammer and Sickle to beat and cut open those around them... If you truly believe Russia to be great they would be using the carrot.
     

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