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Discussion in 'Military Service Records & Genealogical Research' started by Anne Serritella, Jul 24, 2015.

  1. Pacifist

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    TD-Tommy776 Man of Constant Sorrow

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    No, the aren't. First, that would make it too easy and this is the Army after all. Second, there are some jobs that don't apply to both. For example, Tank Crewman. Not much call for them in the civilian world.

    That is a very good question. It did sometimes occur that a soldier might change from one job to another. Is it possible that someone changed from one job to another and back again? Sure, it is possible. However, one does have to consider what was going on at the time. The MR is not documenting that he is changing his job within the unit. It is recording his leaving the unit due to illness then returning to the unit. My guess is that the typo occurred on the 35th Division Special Order and was copied to the MR verbatim.


    As I said earlier, I believe that the handwritten codes refer to different personnel status changes. For example, your father and the men who were added to the Company roster have the letter code "E". Soldiers who were dropped from the roster due to KIA, MIA, or SWA have an "M" code (i.e. M-1, M-2). Soldiers that are added back to the roster have an "A" code (i.e. A-1). Presuming this is the case, the codes are nothing more than a shorthand for what is written out in the Morning Report. IIRC, where we reached a dead end in the previous discussion was that these codes were not necessarily consistent from unit to unit. So, until someone comes up with a definitive explanation, it's a bit up in the air.
     
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    Thank you ! -----


    Lots of info to sift through----


    010 MInig and petroleum thing still doesn't make alot of sense to me...............alot of people on those reports were 010.........My dad had no history in civilian life of that that I know of he was in the machine tool trade.............


    See what you mean about the 636 thing.............. sounds like a typo


    So about those codes................as a whole it makes sense, still wonder what the "E" code would mean the day he joined Co "K"-----Enlisted??

    What was IIRC again?


    So, to sum up his MR:

    12-27-0944...the day he joined Co K --- (code E)

    01-01-1945...slightly sick, dropped from assgn -- (code J-4) (do we have a definition of J-4?) So, if I'm understanding things correctly to this point, slightly sick means not life threatening....there is no mention of type of sickness, so could be wound, frostbite, cold, anything really? So, in this case, was he probably being taken care of at the same location by the medics?

    01-09-1945...slightly sick (LD) dropped from asgmt to RTN --(Code A-1)--- So would this mean that his sickness had been incurred in the line of duty?

    01-12-1945 .... (code J-4) what's that? ........Now, it appears that 3 days later, he is again moved from duty to slightly sick, in the line of duty, and sent to the 65th Field Hospital.

    02-10-1945....(code A-1 again)...says "dropped fr asgmt to RTD 8, Feb 45" --------So does this mean that they had not included his being dropoped from asgmt on the Feb 8th report, but that is what had happened...He had been dropoped from asgmt on Feb 8th and is now back and returning to asgmt ?????

    03-01-1945....(code11 ...what's that?).....don't know if included that one before, but it just says he was promoted to PFC


    Thanks everyone !
     
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    Anne, see responses in red above.
     
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    If you are still looking for a simple example of a Morning Report, please visit our "Research Aid" page, and scroll to the bottom. We have also listed, in convenient form, some abbreviations often found in Morning Reports.

    http://www.16thinfantry.com/help/research-a-veteran/

    Let me know if you have any questions!
     
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    That's a good resource for folks, Max. Have you come across any specific explanation for the handwritten codes that often appear on MRs?
     
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    Thanks all

    Been trying to keep at this since Friday......too many interuptions.................

    I have two more pages to attach, pertaining to the morning report study, and it seems even one is too much -------can anyone post them for me if I email them again? ..............
     
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    I have two more questions that seem like they shole be separate topics, so I'll try to do that
     
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    There were a couple pages at the end of the PDF that you sent me. Are those the pages you are wondering about?
     
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    can't remember what I sent..................they were two pages from 110th med BN clearing station..........one dated Jan 1st, 1945 and the other Jan 12th, 1945.
     
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    Tommy, can you post the PDF? If we all could see it, maybe we could help.
     
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    Yes, I am pretty sure that they are the ones. I will get them posted here a bit later.

    All the MRs are posted above. I have just been converting them to jpegs and reducing the size so I can do a direct upload.
     
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    Thanks Tommy. I didn't realize what you were doing. I read over the MRs and don't have anything to add right now.
     
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    These documents correspond with the like dated MRs above. I was able to get these a bit smaller so they'll fit in one post.

    View attachment 22827 View attachment 22828

    The first document dated 1 Jan 1945 records Pvt Ryan being transferred to the 110th Evac Hospital. The second document dated 12 Jan 1945 records Pvt Ryan being transferred to the 65th Field Hospital. As you may have noticed, he had a lot of company.
     

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    The Medical Section Report of the FIRST US ARMY Report of Operations from 1 Aug 1944 - 22 Feb 1945 has a couple of interesting statistical charts.

    Appendix 15, Number of Admissions for Communicable Diseases [PDF]

    Scroll to the second page for the statistics from Jan 1945

    Appendix 22, Medical Statistics Summary for the four-week period ending 26 Jan 1945 [PDF]


    Of course, the 35th ID was not part of the FIRST Army, but the statistics can be instructive. For the period around 1 Jan 45, the most common illnesses by far were common respiratory diseases and trench foot. Of course, you father could have been suffering from one of the less common illnesses.
     
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    Thanks everyone and especially Tommy for posting this stuff for me, it probably wouldn't have gotten done without him.


    I think I'm understanding more.......Does this sound right?:


    1 Medic was assigned to each platoon.....They were with the guys at the front.......They gave first aid.....They transported men to the a Clearing Station (was also referred to as a Aid Station?)

    The clearing station A&D Report shows a column that is headed ................ Type. I've been told that means Casualty Type.......My father's on both the 1st and the 12th, says SLD-L...Does anyone know what that stands for?....Is there a key to these written somewhere?

    The next column says Date ADMD Jan.....It is blank and is so on every page of the report, but on other days I occasionally see a date, such as 10 Feb on the Feb 13th report (for another person, not my dad) ------

    Now, I still don't understand the Feb 10th MR..........I can't seem to find a line between his comings and goings...........Can anyone explain what I've missed?

    I'm thinking what I need to see next is the 110th evac hospital disposition reports, and the 65th field hospital disposition reports, right?

    So for the rest of my general understanding, .....The clearing Station would send them somewhere else, although, I guess occasionally they kept them and then it said remg (remaining)------if it said duty, that means they sent them back to duty......on another report (again not my dad's), I saw someome transferred to another clearing hospital. I wonder why----Also, someone was transferred to 95 MGT...I wonder what that is.................

    So, back to my dad, the clearing station sent him to the 110th Evac hosp. on Jan 1st

    General Info again, evac hosp were farther behind the lines

    Next generally, a field hospital was even farther behind the lines

    My dad was sent to the 65th field hospital on Jan12th.

    What is the difference between an evac hospital and a field hospital ? ------ Why would they send a person to one or the other, just more room?

    Thanks again, Anne
     
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    No. Although I often come across handwritten codes, I still do not have an explanation for all of them. For example, the entry pertaining to 1st Lt. Edward Thompson's death (L Company, 16th Infantry Regiment), has "ML", "19/01" and "1542" handwritten on the right of the entry. I can explain "19/01" as being the date he was killed and "1542" as the M.O.S. code (platoon leader). No idea what "ML" means.
     
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    A field hospital was generally a hospital near the front line, often maintained at divisional level. A evacuation hospital was for long-term patients.
     
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    Thanks, I had seen that .... I think I might have contacted them, I got a reply from someone that I haven't had a chance to reply to yet....Not sure if that was the same site or not......Actually, I've been bombarded with more information than I had time to digest.... A person can surely get lost in this!..............I am going to have to slow down at little and attend to other things.

    So, you think I have this backwards?? My dad was first sent to an evacuation hospital on Jan 1st, so perhaps he was thought to be a long time..........................

    Anybody know what constitutes a long term patient??

    Since it was January, perhaps it was weather related, and they expected a certain length of time for recovery for that. .................

    On the 9th it appears re returned??

    Next entry I see on the morning reports is going to the field hospital on the 12th.

    Could it be that he tried to go back too soon and 3 days later it was apparent he needed more time

    ......Next entry is February 10th that mentions something about the 8th of Feb. ..................I don't understand this completely..

    So maybe there are records from the 101st evac and the 65th field that show disposition of patients??

    I need to see if I can get any of my fathers records, and I have the form and death ceritficate now, and can send that in as soon as I get a chance


    Thanks everyone...
     

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