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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by CAC, Dec 9, 2015.

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  1. toki2

    toki2 Active Member

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    I think I will decline the invitation to the orgy thanks.
     
  2. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    Ah, I see. Illustration was misleading. What about this:

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  3. toki2

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    Nope. They are dead.
     
  4. KodiakBeer

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    Well, Trump pulled off New Hampshire pretty big, so unless a dead hooker shows up in his hotel room, we'd better get used to him.

    When it comes right down to it, I'd hold my nose and vote for Trump over crazy Bernie or corrupt Hillary.
     
  5. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    True he won, but he is still only a giant among pygmies since he only took a third of the vote. Hillary is deeply wounded, but not dead since it takes a head shot to put down a zombie.

    If you look at the total numbers both parties are pulling apart nearly equally from their 'establishment' centers. The Republican's simply hasn't coalesced around its establishment candidate yet and until it does that race will remain in flux.

    Of the entire remaining 2016 class, I see Trump as the one most likely to be impeached as President. Yes more than Hillary since she has friends/support in Congress where Trump has none.
     
  6. KodiakBeer

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    Christie dropped out today. Rubio can't seem to get in gear. Kasich did well, but he spent every dime he had to make a splash in New Hampshire and has zero resources left for South Carolina (though this showing might see some donors stepping up). I don't see Bush as the nominee because he just represents the same old tiresome thing that everyone is rejecting.

    If this was a dog track, I'd bet my fold on Trump and throw in a 5 buck safety bet on Cruz.

    As these establishment candidates drop out, you have to ask who their supporters will accept as their safety bet. You're right that it probably won't be Trump, and since Cruz is almost certain to do very well in conservative SC (he already beat Trump in Iowa), I think this will start to snowball into a Cruz-Trump race. Trump still has the edge in national polls, but it's always volatile this early and anything can happen - one bad or good debate showing and the whole deck can get re-shuffled.
     
  7. Ilhawk

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    Brokered Convention x2.

    Trump, Clinton, Sanders, and maybe Bush aren't electable. Cruz will never win. Likely scenario of two yet to be identified Presidential candidates in Nov.

    Besides, our economy (and everyone else') will look radically different by end of summer or as late as the end of the year.
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    Liquidity trap dead ahead.

    Trump is just too immature. Clinton is too corrupt. A socialist will never win unless there is huge anti Wall Street sentiment. American's are tired of War, so there goes Bush. Cruz can be taken about as serious as Rubio. I'm smarter than Rubio.
     
  8. belasar

    belasar Court Jester

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    If I had to place my bet today I would have to agree, but before we reach that it will become a three horse race with Trump, Cruz and the moderate yet to be named (my guess Bush because of the money). If it holds then a brokered convention where one outsider combines with the moderate for a President-VP pairing. Have trouble seeing any moderate getting cozy with Trump, but stranger things have happened. Trump really need to win outright in my opinion and as long as it remains fractured its hard for him to do so.

    What seems more likely to me is Blumberg as a 3rd party.
     
  9. von Poop

    von Poop Waspish

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  10. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    I read yesterday that to America this is an election....but to the rest of the world this is an IQ test for the US...
     
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    bronk7 Well-Known Member

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    Clinton is ok with criminals......it's the police that are the problem!?!.....BAM! this is it in a nutshell........no denying it......with Clinton, we will have re-''educate'' the police, not the criminals....how ridiculous !!!
     
  12. Sloniksp

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    Just saw an interesting poll (fox maybe)?

    The poll showed Hillary beating Donald by a slim margin. The same poll had Rubio beating Hillary. What caught me by surprise was if Bernie is the front runner he beats all GOP candidates hands down.
     
  13. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NzhQWcc7h4
     
  14. bronk7

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    if this has been said already, sorry....the news media is trying to destroy Trump...Clinton, Sanders, the other Republicans are trying to destroy Trump...now Romney........but Trump is not being destroyed.....he is more popular, etc.......he is not same same ...Clinton, Sanders, Obama, Romney, all the same old politics.....seems like the majority is coming out...not the criminal, riotous , anti-American values crowd, thugging and rioting to get what they want
     
  15. Ilhawk

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    People are tired of the same old same old. Trump is immature. He could do great damage. However, which is worse...immaturity or the same old issues. Trump and Bernie represent something different. Beating the Clinton machine (Dem establishment) isn't going to be easy. The Republican Party as machine is busted as they've lost a lot of their base. Pro-lifers realizing they are just being pandered. Middle class republicans knowing they are getting screwed.

    Sometimes things need to get worse before they get better. Trump and Bernie probably would create a faster race to the bottom which may be a good thing? Did I just say that?

    Being from IL maybe I have a different perspective. Illinois is broken. There is no way to fix it.

    Take time to read this. The rest of the nation is heading this way eventually. For those of you from the so called "strong states" that weathered the Great Recession well, it was a commodities bubble, nothing much more. Your turn is coming.

    Chicago Bonds: http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20150512/NEWS02/150519935/moodys-cuts-chicagos-credit-rating-to-junk

    Eastern IL: http://nxnwcapital.com/?p=1818

    http://finance.townhall.com/columnists/mikeshedlock/2016/02/26/moodys-downgrades-3-illinois-universities-to-junk-or-just-above-junk-n2124858

    The pension system is broke. This article is 2 years old and it is snow balling.
    https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-news/illinois-pension-problem-how-big-is-it-really/9cbabab6-9a19-42a2-b237-559fe1940875

    How can a state that is losing businesses in droves and currently collects only 30 billion of the 36 billion dollar budget that doesn't even begin to slow the tide of pension deficit growth tackle a 300 billion dollar pension debt?

    IT IS NOT POSSIBLE. This is not just IL. IL is the tip of the iceberg.

    Illinois Population growth: http://newsroom.niu.edu/2015/03/30/illinois-leads-nation-in-population-decline/

    Europe better? EU population growth: .22%. Germany, the big piece is negative.
     
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    agree...that was part of Greece's problem, no?
     
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    The GOP does not support Trump. The NeoCons are aware that Trump will kick them to the curb if elected (Sanders would too) it is for this reason that many of the GOP would vote for Hillary if it came down to the two of the .
     
  18. LJAd

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    I don't think that many GOP voters would go for Hillary: there is a big populist uprising against Washington and if it succeeds,the Republican weasels on Capitol Hill ,who have given Obama free play,will be sweeped away .

    For obvious reasons,the GOP establishment refuses Trump and wants Rubio:they will do everything to stop Trump (see the speech of Romney (the GOP Obama) in Utah .

    I am curious what will happen this summer when the GOP members will have to confirm the GOP representatives and 1/3 of the GOP senators.I would not be surprised if this also will result in a uprising against the Rinos .
     
  19. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Mitt Romney was pretty condemning about Trump. Looks like the republicans will end up fighting each other towards the presidential voting. Hillary only need to watch and laugh on her way to the bank...??
     
  20. KodiakBeer

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    An IQ test would have to have a correct decision. When it gets down to Hillary vs Donald, there is no correct decision.
     
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