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  1. lwd

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    As of 1 Dec 1941 the US had 7 CVs Yorktown, Lexington, Saratoga, Enterprise, Ranger, Wasp, and Hornet.
    As of August 1939 the Royal Navy had 5 large carriers and 3 smaller ones they lost 3 by the end of November 1941 but had added 4 more.
    The IJN on the other hand had 10 but only 6 would be considered fleet carriers I believe.
    http://combinedfleet.com/cvlist.htm
    states 7 fleet and light carriers as of April 41.
    http://www.combinedfleet.com/economic.htm list 6 CVs and 2 CVLs pre Midway.

    In any case certainly not more than the combined carriers if the RN and USN. Also note that the aircraft compliment of the pre PH USN carrier fleet was roughly equal if not superior to that of the IJN carrier fleet.
     
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    Opana, I was pointing out that there were specific orders by Yamamoto to attack the carriers and they were a high priority target.
     
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  3. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    And the written orders gave the sequence I mentioned above. Again we run into the maddening issue of oral vs. written orders and the Japanese habit of obeying the one they favored the most.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Worth mentioning that Stinnett's reproduction of "JN-25 intercepts that were decoded before the attack" were taken from this book. And Wallin took them from the Pearl Harbor Hearings. The investigators sent a list of questions to the American Shogun for replies from people still alive who were involved in that attack. So Stinnett's "proof" can be refuted by the sources he provides to prove his case. What an idiot.
     
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  5. rkline56

    rkline56 USS Oklahoma City CG5

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    Interesting reading that Tokko stuff. Tatasai or however they spell it. Nothing more important than dying for your Emperor, such an honor.
     
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  6. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I need to find an informed analysis of the differences between traditional bushio and the hyper-bushio the militarists preached in the '20s and '30s.
     
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