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The most lethal tank in ww2

Discussion in 'The Tanks of World War 2' started by KBO, Aug 19, 2004.

  1. KBO

    KBO New Member

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    Hi everyone..

    Ok wich tank do you guy's think was the most lethal during ww2 and why ??? :bang:

    Do not base it on actual confirmed kills, because then the StugIII would probably win......... :kill:

    Base it on = Firepower, armor Protection, Mobillity.

    Any tank from any country can be picked, but explain why you picked it......

    Best regards, KBO
     
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    Do not base it on actual confirmed kills, because then the StugIII would probably win.........

    Yeah baby :D :D

    Most probably the jagdpanther or the tiger 1
    The Jagdpanther had good mobility , armour protection , and firepower but has the disadvantage of having no turret, thus has limited traverse for the gun.
    The tiger had/has excellent firepower and armour protection, but was a little left behind in the mobility section hehe.
     
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    Then it has to be the IS-2.

    Good armour protection, excellent mobility ( at least for such a heavy tank ) and a gun that could blow anything to kingdom come.
     
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    I'd give the nod to the Tiger I over the Panther and Tiger II. Superior optics, great gun, great armor (though not sloped), decent reliability, decent mobility. The fact they seemed to give Tigers to their best crews didn't hurt either.
     
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    I bet Danyel says the Sherman!

    My vote would be the Sentinel with 17pdr.
     
  6. KBO

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    Yes the JSII was indeed a brutal beast...... :evil:

    But...... the main disadvantage of the JSII was actually its main gun, wich was roughly on equal with the 88mm L/56 gun on the TigerI, exept it actually wasnt since the 122mm gun had poor optics as well....... :kill:

    But against infantry the 122mm gun was supurbe... when using HEAT rounds it was a very very nasty gun....... :bang:

    Regards, KBO
     
  7. KBO

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    Plz explain why... :D :D

    KBO
     
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    Yeah me to.... :lol:

    Ok the sherman wasnt all bad, but when it incountered Tigers and Panthers im affraid it was extreemly outmatched.....


    KBO
     
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    Uh-oh, you're in for it now, KBO; just wait until Danyel sees that post! ;)
     
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    the kingtiger, it's 88 was deadly even for the dreded stalin :smok:
    but on the other hand it was slow, overwheight and underpowered, then i prefer the panther, a good balance of firepower mobility and armor :D
     
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    definetly the sherman for the poor b*stds sat in 1.... keerboooommmmm!!

    i thank you!
     
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    I say the Tommy Cooker. If it wasn't killing Germans it for sure wasn't saving any Brits.
    :roll:
     
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    The T-34. It was the best tank of the war overall. When they got into a pack you could not stop them. Its best quality was its mobility under adverse conditions that left other tanks wallowing good armour and a good gun easily manufactured and dependable.
     
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    Certainly!

    It had good armour, which was well-sloped. It had about the same mobility as the Sherman, if not a little more due to less weight, and with the 17pdr had arguably the best gun the Allies fielded during the war.
     
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    Actually you could. There are authentic accounts of just two or three Tiger Is stopping circa 30 or so T34s. At a distance(common of the eastern front) Tigers were able to pick off T34s at will long before the T34's gun got into effective range. This also includes the T34/85.

    T34s often turned tail and retreated once a just a few Tiger Is appeared on a ridge in the distance and got them in their sights. What else could they do? Their guns wouldn't have made any impact on the Tiger at long range.
     
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    He he yeah i know...

    But he cant deny facts... and the facts is that the american tanks didnt stand much of a chance against the german ZOO...

    But that doesnt mean american tanks were bad.
    WW2 U.S. tanks were known for there engines reliabillity, and for being simple and easy to repair... some later american tanks like the Pershing were fitted with a 90mm gun simillar in power to the 88mm L/56 gun mounted on the TigerI, but still the Pershing would be outmatched if meeting the TigerI at a long distance engagement because of the TigerI's far superior gun Optics....

    BTW my choice would be the TigerII, as i can clearly say it had the most lethal Tankgun of the war, and because its armor was a though nut to crack...... :bang:

    Or i would choose the Panther simply because of the balance it had in armor, armement and mobillity...... it was about the best tank of ww2......

    KBO
     
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    The 'msot lethal tank' would be the Tiger-Mörser - the most powerful self-propelled gun in WWII that I can think of (aside from the Karl-Gerät). Not very practical, though.
     
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    I must admit that I have little knowledge about Soviet optics in general. But from the testing of the T-34 and KV-I at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds, the Americans were in general impressed by the optics used on these tanks. Can I ask you where your information come from ? :)
     
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    I've read combat accounts where the accuracy of the IS-2's gun was it's letdown in counter fire against the Tiger I. This is one of the main reasons why the IS-2s were not successful at Tirgu Frumos and why generally the Tiger I was able to hold it's own against the IS-2 for the rest of the war.
     
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    Well i can understand that the Allies were impressed because thier optics were even worse....... ;)

    Germany was also the only country to use Rangefinders in thier tanks...... :eek: wich ment they could engage targets at extreem ranges but still succeed in one shot one kill ratios....... :eek:

    Actually the rangefinderf made for the TigerII was also used in the modern LeopardI.. :eek: that says abit about german optics in ww2......

    Best regards, KBO
     

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