What if hitler did not attack the soviet union

if hitler did not attack the soviet union hey cute take the britins and the americans easy and take over europe then hey can take over afrika and when hey haf taken over afrika hey can get many troops to fight the russians when the are done to take over russia hey cute talk to the japs to help attack america but the attack on pearl harbor were a stupid plan
but tell my about what you think

 

to my knowledge hitler's plan all along was to attack the USSR and occupy it, before the war (as ive been told) he considerd England one of his greatest allies and was shocked when we declared war on him

 

That is true man

 

wot im right woah first time 4 everythin

 

Don't belittle yourself.

You have been right at least twice......... I think. :lol:

 

can u tell me wen than was GP?

 

I'll get back to you.
:lol:

 

wen r u gonna get bak 2 me

 

Still looking :lol:

 

Well first,Hitler was a sworn anti-comunist...
Second he told...if he get USSR he will easily deal with America and England...And what is the way of removing USSR?...by the blitzkrieg!!!If he attack England he will lose time...i think...
So its obvious that there was no way for Hitler not to attack the USSR without clearing the west front...I mean he was scared mostly by the soviet union

 

the europeans hated the communists so hitler didnt need to clear the western front he would have been supported all the way with his invasion of the USSR like i said at one point he considerd england as his greatest ally.

 

You, guys can go on with your brilliant exchanges. :lol:

I am going to answer the question asked here, if you allow.

If Hitler did not attack USSR, the USSR would have certainly attacked Hitler. A large part of my early entries in this Forum (many various places) explains why and how.
The original dato for what was to be Operation "Groza"(Thunderstorm) was June the 12th., 1941.
Because of Stalin´s fear that Hess´ journey would bring peace between UK and Germany, he postponed the planned invasion of Europe until July the 15th. The archives of the old USSR have been open for some time already, but nobody (outside some freaks or serious historians in Russia) cares to look into them.
"Groza" has become a kind of taboo. Nobody wants to destroy one´s career by writing about it.

Why did Stalin prepare ca. 1 0000 000 parachute desant troops (exclusively attack formations)?
Why did he remove ALL defence installations on his side (not one bridge on River Bug – the border to Germany was mined, in case)?
Why did USSR prepare ca. 24 000 tanks (many of which – BT series - very fast on roads and autobahns, after throwing tracks away?)
Why did USSR create the Danube Flotilla in 1940 out of parts of Dniepr Flotilla, if not in order to attack Romanian oilfields – the only reservoir of oil for Germany?
Why did soviets prepared trainloads of maps of central-western Europe, but not at all of their own territory?
Why did Soviets make depots with millions of tonnes of of military goods right on the border with Germany (including temporary, military pipelines for oil) and many military airports – also on the very border.

I can go on like that, but I´ll be repeating myself. I promise, it´s the last time I´m doing this here.

 

stalin had all the troops ready cus Hilter in his book Mein Kampf said that he was going to invade the USSR so everyone knew what he was going 2 do so to my knowledge Stalin wanted to attack elminate germany before they could attack first

 

Dave, have you actually ever read complete Mein Kampf? I can tell you - I have not. It was so dull....Impossible to read.

However, I have read all of this conc. foreign policies etc.
It doesn´t say much about USSR. A few phrases maybe, where the reader is to understand that East is a great plan for future generations.

The actual, the greatest enemy of Germany which has to be dealt with was France, France, firstandforemost FRANCE!

That explains why Iossif Vissarionovich was not very afraid of Hitler and removed all his defensive works on the border and deeper. He really did.
Because he did not believe in such an attack. Ever. He supplied Germany in 2 years in all she needed to fatten it, in order to make it his tool.

Stalin did not want to attack first because he was afraid. Quite the opposite. Because he wasn´t. And IMHO, he was right.

 

i havent read the book but i had a chat with my history teacher who has read it n he sed that hitlers plan was to invade the USSR

 

that´s the official version :lol:

 

to my knowledge the germans blamed the russians for their defeat in WW1 n hitler wanted some slaves and the ukraine for resources + he h8ed the russains and communists so because of his h8 of communism the rest of europe got along with him

 

Its well known that the truce between Germany and USSR was just for time for the both parts to prepare for the main war....Germany vs USSR...

 

Having had the dubious pleasure to read parts of Mein Kampf(It actually was the very first book written in german I read in), I can confirm what Izaak says.
In the foreign policy part, the Soviet Union is surprisingly not often mentionned(except the crap that they are subhumans and their lands are to be taken by Germany in the future).
The main ennemy(Erbfeind) is clearely France, and he writes pages and pages about how Germany should ally with Britain and Italy to fight France.

Till the late 1930's Hitler saw France as Germany's most dangerous ennemy, till he understood that France did not yet have the statesmen required to stop him.
That lead him to tell one of his collaborators(Ribbentrop I think):"Thank God that in our time, all the traditional genius of the latin race is concentrated in one person, the Duce.We shall always be gratefull to providence that he was born italian, not french."

 

"The Europeans" did not unanimously hate "the communists"; after the numbers, propaganda or not, of Stalin's industrialization campaign were published, support and belief in communism rose in all European countries. Communist parties were large and active almost everywhere, especially in France.