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Todays best AA-tank ?

Discussion in 'Post-World War 2 Armour' started by Che_Guevara, Nov 24, 2005.

  1. Che_Guevara

    Che_Guevara New Member

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    heyho folks,
    which one is todays most effective anti-aircraft tank ?

    I would vote for the german Gepard and the Roland


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    Gepard

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    Roland.

    Are there any real AA-tanks in the world, these two are the only one I know atm.


    Best wishes,
    Che.
     
  2. Notmi

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    Yes there are others too:
    Marksman
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  3. Che_Guevara

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    Looks like, that the Gepard and the Marksman use the same weapon system ?
     
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    France has got it's own version of the Roland, based on a AMX 30 chassis.
    Other french AA systems are Crotale and Mistral, but they are only mounted on wheeled chassis.
    I think China has got some AA tanks too, I'll try to find a picture.
     
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    There is a stack of info on http://www.globalsecurity.org/index.html
     
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    O.k., thanks, I'll go and check....
     
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    Probably yes, as there isn't that many 35mm weapon systems available.
     
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    And of course the UK doesn't even feature. We had Chieftain, Centurion and Abbott-based systems but the army/ government wouldn't buy....
     
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    i would also vote for the gepard and the roland :D
     
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    The U.S. has the M163 Vulcan. It features a 6-barreled M157 20mm auto cannon mounted on a M113. Older than the ZSU-23-4 I'm sure, but just as mean!

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    The British do have Starstreak.

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    Rats, forgot about HVMS Starstreak on a vehicle. But no gun systems. :lol:
    IIRC Starstreak is fairly good vs light armour as well, like Rapier (I've seen photos of what's left of an FV432 after a Rapier hit - not much...)
     
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    Singapore's Igla heat seeker mounted on M113 & RBS70 mounted on V200 for added mobility. Certainly not the best around but interesting enuff :smok:
     
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    Another mobile Finnish AA-system (not a tank and this time armed with missiles)
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    The ZSU-23-4 was/is a highly respected AA system. Those rascals can throw-up a lot of lead in front of ground-attacking aircraft.
    I also think very highly of the Gepard system, but I'm not familiar enough with the Roland to compare or comment.
    The Sgt. York was pretty-much a disaster, and was pulled from service.
    In regards to the M-163--M113 APC-based--vulcan-gun system... the Australians used them with success in Vietnam, and almost exclusively from what I've gleaned. I don't the USA used them in any large numbers by comparison.
    The Aussies found them to be devastatingly-effective when used against ground troops in repelling attacks, or convoy ambushes. Their original purpose of course being positioned for airfield defense.
    As a side-note the old M-16--Modified M3 halftrack with quad .50s in a power-driven "turret" were similarly effective in Korea against Chinese human-wave assaults... and again in Vietnam where they proved an asset in convoy-protection. The same quad .50s were also mounted on 2.5 ton 6x6 trucks as well... with improvised armored cabs for additional protection to the driver.

    Tim
     
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    The Shilka was an excellent AA system for its time, but is bit too old now, as is the M163 Vulcan.

    I vote for the 2S9M Tunguska to be the most capable mobile AA system, without a shadow of doubt. This being for the fact that it combines the capability of dual 30mm cannons with a SAMsite and a "Hot Shot" Tracking Radar system electronic sensors; Thats three vehicles piled into one; sort of what you'd get if you mashed a Gepard and a Roland together with a radar facility.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g6EW5LfhyA

    - watch this short video showing the Tunguska it fire its cannon. Flames come out of the side :D
     
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    Is that a RBS90 missile, laser guided system or radar guided?
     

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