1st Choice is Enemy at the Gates 2. Battle of Britan 3. Longest Day My choice is Enemy at the Gates. Great effects, a little love story but you always need a little sex in a movie. The battles great. Story line is great or adventures. Uniforms great. Accurate battles in Stalingrad.
I don't think they're comparable. Two of them are attempted reconstructions of large battles, one of them is a bungled and historically inaccurate drama story with unnecessary sex. Yes. Unnecessary. It shouldn't have been in there.
i thought enemy at the gates was good at first with the special effects. and how the russians shot at the retreating russians as they came back to them. then i hated how it became a sex story. andrew
Well, it's probably the difference between someone who's mature and someone who isn't. You expect to see a war film (with some pretensions of historical accuracy) and they put a gratuitous sex scene in for the adolescents. Go figure.
wait a minute, am i the immature one? because im an adolescent, and i dont like their sex scenes every other post germanm36tunic has is insulting to some minority, this time gays. its amazing how he remains a member. his post also makes no sense, i dont get what he is saying. andrew
Sorry Mauser, I was meaning adolescent as in "state of mind" (= immature), not a description of actual age. I think we keep him around for his (limited) entertainment value, but it's rapidly wearing thin. :angry:
germanm36tunic Your attrocious spelling and inconsistent grammar aside, your comments on the movie suggest very well your level of commitment regarding historical movies. May I suggest, that in stead of encouraging Hollywood et al. to include love stories in what is supposed to be historical movies, you go rent an X-rated movie? By the way, we have previously established that you are French, and that you therefore hate yourself. Your nom de plume suggest a German persuation of some kind, and you have previously delared your alligience to Britain - this would make you a traitor to your French decent. Now you are severely over-compensating regarding your sexuality - this might indicate some latent homosexuality. In other words: This is stupid.
I never said I hate gays. I do not see what the reasons for not having a little sex in a War Movie. Mauser enemy at the gates was a rated R and why were you watching it if you are adolescent.
How much sex did the average infantryman (any army!) actually get to experience? In reality, the chances of getting laid were slim to none, and that's on a good day! If the chance arose, it was even more unlikely to be something as portrayed in EATG. The encounter would have lasted long enough to complete the act, and get on with the war. Thus, what was portrayed in that film was inappropriate for a film allegedly portraying a historic event.
It's mostly that it serves no purpose. In a war movie there's a need for scenes which describe the horror of war, and a need for scenes which explain why soldiers still continue to fight in spite of those horrors. If your reason to fight is love, then so be it, but what need is there for a sex scene? Since sex is quite the most unlikely thing to happen in a barracks full of strained sleeping soldiers in the middle of a gruesome war, it doesn't make any sense whatsoever. To all members: Tunic is not free game. There is no need to insult him or imply things about him as you explain to him that he is wrong.
During my apprenticeship there was a guy on the next workbench (fitter's shop) who used to be in the recce unit of 9th Panzer Div. Some (most) of the stories he told me are worth repeating, but this one particularly fits: After the collapse of France in '40 he and his mates were sent out to check the countryside for pockets of resistance. According to him, because they were wheeled vehicles they'd get all the "crappy jobs", because they were generally faster, but this one he enjoyed. He said they'd get a nice distance away from interference by command, find a quiet village with a good restaurant, a good bar and a good brothel, and then radio back to HQ saying they'd met "light resistance, but nothing they couldn't handle". He'd then report that "mopping up would take another day or so, and they'd call in if anything unexpected turned up". And then they'd enjoy the local "entertainments". I've often thought about trying wargame such encounters...
I heard that American G.I.'s were swarmed by European women while the local troops were kicked to the curb.
Quite possible, but it was probably for economic reasons. Yanks got paid more as I understand it, and their logistical support was most likely stronger. Thus, the girls could get more out of the Yanks.
Lots of Dutch women suddenly had Canadian boyfriends and semi-Canadian kids after the war, and subsequently many moved to Canada.