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Discussion in 'Air Warfare' started by King Randall, Aug 29, 2006.

  1. King Randall

    King Randall New Member

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    Lately ive noticed i havnt really seen any primary Russian fighter used in WW2. If anyone knows of some fighters or bombers that were used in WW2 it would be great if you told me. Thanks
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    The main Soviet fighters IIRC correctly were:

    I-15
    I-16
    MiG-3
    LaGG-3 (And LaGG-1)
    La-5 and La-7
    Yak-3, -7 and -9

    The main Soviet attack aircraft and bombers were:

    Ilyushin Il-4
    Il-2 Stormovik (And very late on the improved Il-10)
    Petlyakov Pe-2
    Tupolev Tu-2

    There were also a host of other aircraft including lend-lease and a four engined bomber of varying designation built by Petlyakov and Tupolev IIRC.

    In the west the Soviet aircraft have an enduring cold war reputation for having poor performance and being poorly made, this is simply not true the front line kit whilst tending to be poorly armed compared to their Luftwaffe contemporaries was up there with some of best in the world in terms of performance.

    One thing I am curious about though, I've noticed that after the designation system was changed to reflect the design bureau responsible Soviet fighters all seem to have odd numbers and bombers even numbers. Anyone got any idea why?
     
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    im guessing for order? maby when interceptor planes come it will be easier to pick off the bombers
     
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    If it were just the order they were designed then there would be some mixing of numbers, but as it stands I am unaware of a single example from 1940 to the present day of an aircraft that was designed as a fighter that didn't have an odd number, or an aircraft designed as a bomber or other support craft that didn't have an even number (Helicopters excepted).

    As it was cross-over aircraft that were in production either side of the 1940 mark had their numbers modified to suit, for example the DB-3 became the Il-4.
     
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    Tu-95
     
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    :oops: Any others apart from the "Bear" ?
     
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    Well, Su-30 comes to my mind.
    And various Yaks (28, 36, 38) too but they are more attack or strike planes than fighters.
    Also, Tupolev 28/128 long range interceptor.
     
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    First of all during the WW2 there was Russian SSR (scialist republic ) but it did not have airforce of it's own :D Term is Soviet airforce or simply VVS (Voenoye vzdushniye sili) of RKKA (red army) or VMF (military fleet - i.e. naval Air force).

    About primary planes used in the Great patrioc war (GPW) you realy need to specify time.

    Some of helpfull sites (thera a large number of others but i haven't time to write them all):
    Modelling airplanes of the VVS (modeling site with extensive research and large model gallery and articles - it also has a forum attached):
    http://vvs.hobbyvista.com/

    Massimo Tessitori page (excellent reference site for MiG-3, LaGG-3, La-5, Ar-2...):
    http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/

    Excellent site dealing with 51.MTAP (51st. Mine Topedo Aviation regiment) - in Russian:
    http://bellabs.ru/51/index.html

    Lend - Lease airplanes - in Russian and English:
    http://lend-lease.airforce.ru/

    Antologia Yak ( Yak- fighters drawings side profiles etc.) in Russian:
    http://airfield.narod.ru/
    Чертежи - drawings
    Окраска - colour profiles
    фото - photo

    Air Warfare forum - Excellent research forum with large number of photos and walkaround section (you have to be serious contributing member to gain acces to this section):
    http://www.airwarfareforum.com/index.php?sid=fea07fbeb2938d84e33d769ff2bd7f0b

    LEMB (Luftwaffe Experten Messege Board) - look at section with captured planes:
    http://www.luftwaffe-experten.org/forums/index.php?act=idx

    Site with 2677 photos of Soviet planes in WW2 (some captured some destroyed, some still with VVS) - site is in Russian:
    http://www.avia-n-aero.ru/photo.php

    Drawings of airplanes (all waring nations):
    http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw.html
    5th link is to WW2 figters
    6th link is to WW2 attack & bomber planes
    7th link is to WW2 auxliary planes (reccon, transport...)
    8th link is to pre WW2 airplanes
    9th link is to civilian airplanes (some from ww2 period)
     
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    cool sites ,tiso..thank you....its funny in my youth,i built every ww2 fighter kit revel made,thinking back ,its strange never ever did i see a model of any vvs plane ever.....its as if they were banned like the swastka in germany...a repression of free speech it would seem...
     
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    Not realy, just no good & reliable information on mesurments and shape. Only scale models of VVS planes i rember about 20 years ago were old Airfix Pe-2, Il-2 Yak-9, Heller I-153 and Yak-3. On the other hand it is possible that those who decide thought that these planes would not sell well.

    To be frank it seemed that same problem plagued modelers wanting to build Italian ww2 planes (with notable exception of Supermodel).

    Revell's policy is sometimes strange. For number of years they were the onlyones producing some models of imprtant planes, but they did not start reissuing them (Il-4, Mc-200 Saetta, Ju-23...).
     

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