The Canadian Navy in WW2

Since your remarks quote my comment on the escort carriers being RN ships with RCN crews am I to assume you dispute that fact?
The facts regarding the RCN during WW II may not exactly square with your impressions however that doesn't change the facts. If you want to take issue with any of my comments about the RCN please point out the factual errors rather than just using terms like "typical".
The RCN played an important role in the convoy lifeline crossing the Atlantic in WW II. Recognizing the limitations as well as the accomplishments of the RCN does not detract from their achievements.

 

Calm down, Grieg; taking umbrage won't solve anything. And Grabbers, harping on the Canadian Navy's problems isn't helpful; the RCN was far from alone in having difficulty getting its act together during WW2. The US Navy's performance during the first year of the war (1941-42) was not exactly stellar, to put it mildly. Even the great victory at Midway was a very close-run thing. This is not to put down the officers and men of the USN who did the fighting (and dying); they did their best under incredibly difficult circumstances. But it took time and hardship to overcome the problems the USN had within itself as a result of the neglect of the 1920s and 1930s. The same can be said for the Royal Navy, which did not dazzle anyone with their performance in 1939-40, for the same reasons, despite the courage and skill of their officers and men.

 

Who's taking umbrage? I merely asked him to clarify his remarks.
If the facts are being disputed that is easy enough to solve.

 

Grieg, I think he was making a joke nothing more nothing less!
(altough let him confirm my assumption)

Can you call these CVE's converted Merchantman (the only thing comon is their C3 Hull...the Bogue-class or, as they were RN, Attacker/Ameer/Ruler/Prince William-class were never completed as Merchantmen and were converted before completion/purpose built) ?

Best part is that no Canadian aircrews served onboard these 2 vessels wich sailed under RCN crew (Nabob and Puncher)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Puncher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Nabob

http://www.aviation.technomuses.ca/pdf/Carriers.PDF

 

I thought that I detected a...waspish tone, shall we say, in your previous post. If I was mistaken I apologize, but I like to head off potential problems whenever possible. Which is why I also reminded Grabbers that harping on the RCN's difficulties was not good.

 

Ok I am in the Canadian Navy at present and Im currently employed on HMCS Toronto... (Sorry OPSEC says thats all you get)

I think as an 8 year (R)CN member I reserve the right to make fun of my own profession as I see fit.

We did great work in WW2 I was only joking around and poking fun at MY SELF so everyone else can just calm down and join me in laughter now ok ?

By the way the reason is has taken me this long to reply is because I was at sea.

 

Grabbers, we had no way of knowing that you were joking, or that you are an RCN sailor.

 

besides the broad beams and rounded bottoms

 

Which made them very lively in any seaway.

 

Oh those little vets got tossed around like corks

Every time I pass the Sackville in the yard I always imagine myself hanging over the gunnel's puking my butt off lol

 

I daresay that it took the crews quite some time to get used to the liveliness of the Flower-class ships, if indeed they ever did. Not to mention their wetness, which is the other characteristic of the type most often mentioned by their crews.

 

You know I coulnt imagine spending years of my life on a little cork like the Sackville battling through the North Atlantic.

I find it hard enough on a CPF

 

Yet the Flowers were arguably the most important ships in the Battle of the Atlantic.

 

Its funny how under appreciated the battle of the Atlantic is.

I think if you get right down the nuts and bolts of WW2 it was probably the most important campaign in the European theatre.

Anyone disagree ?

 

Not really. Had the U-boats succeeded in choking off Britain's ocean lifeline, then the war would have taken a much different turn. Who knows, with Britain out of the war, the German invasion of Russia might have turned out differently.

 

Well with out the jumping off point that Britan was I think you would have seen the US stay out of Europe all togther and well Canada and the rest of the commonwealth would have had to react to what came next

 

There was another cruiser Hmcs Ontario http://www.wrightandlogan.co.uk/cart.ph ... ory_id=265

 

I don't think Ontario entered service with the RCN until after WWII (she was ex RN HMS Minotaur), and I'm pretty certain she never served in the Pacific, as a Canadian Naval vessel at least.

 

I have a poster of the modern Canadian Navy. 4 destroyers, several frigates and coastal defence vessels, two AOR ships and 4 diesel-electric subs.

 

sounds like quite a small navy...