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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by A-58, Sep 17, 2013.

  1. Takao

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    Umm, the original colors were Blue and White. Purple and gold/yellow were first used by LSU in 1893, thanks to Dr. Charles Coates.
     
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    Never know of the blue and white combo. Pretty bland colors. Heard a story once that at one point the colors were purple, gold and green (Mardi Gras colors) and so was Tulane's, our rival down in New Orleans. For some reason LSU dropped the green and Tulane dropped the gold. Eh, no big deal either way. That canary yellow is still too gaudy.
     
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    I don't give a damn. I'm half a Southerner myself.
     
  4. Takao

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    The legend, as I understand it, is that the store where Coates went shopping in had not yet gotten in their shipment of green, so all he could get was purple and gold.
     
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    Makes sense. Good as any story I guess. There's a story about the Confederate battle flag too.

    This is the one that everyone is familiar with:

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    Army flags were square, as opposed to the rectangular shapes commonly used. Anyway according to legend, a rich woman in New Orleans was motivated (for unknown reasons) to have hundreds and maybe thousands of battle flags made for distribution to various units in the area. Since New Orleans was under occupation at the time, no shop there could accept the order, so she made arrangements for a shop in Havana to make them. She included in here order and hand drawn copy of the battle flag, with instructions for it to be red, white and blue.

    This is how they were delivered:

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    The reversed colors became know as the battle flag of the Trans-Mississippi Department, comprising Louisiana (west of the Mississippi River), Arkansas, Texas, Oklahoma and parts of the Arizona Territory not under Union occupation. I kind of like it.

    Maybe there are other versions of how the flag came to be in reversed colors, but I like this one the best.





    Still not sure why Tulane dropped gold. Not really interested in them anyway.
     
  6. ColHessler

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    Then after the war, you couldn't come home again.
     
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    Australia has a "battle flag" - Eureka Flag
    Anti-authoritarian...the way (Irish) Australians like it... : )
     
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    "Today, the Eureka flag is often used as a symbol of rebellion against authority by people at the extreme left and the extreme right of the political spectrum in Australia. It has been used in marches by neo-Nazis on the one hand and draped over the coffins of deceased Communists on the other."

    Ironic. Hard to get more authoritarian than Nazis and Communists?
     
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    What, it's a police state is it? Do any of these loons ever look at dictionaries?
     
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    I don't think that they look at anything in the way it is supposed to be or mean.
     
  12. Takao

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    Of course they do...Just before they rewrite therm.
     
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    I really can't blame them.
     
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    It's not going to happen, no matter how many, or how much Californians want it to happen. California is to much of an economic powerhouse for Congress to allow that economic stability to fall off, which would adversely effect all the other states, and potentially the international community. California is the perfect stage to show what's happening across the country, the North (Conservative Republicans) hate the South (Liberal Democrats), and vice versa. I feel bad for the Northern Californians, not because of my political views, but they don't really have any say in what goes on in California, the big cities (all Democrat) make up most of the states population, so the North gets ignored.......probably intentionally at times.
     
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    Why are people even talking about this? If there is one thing the Civil War settled it is that there is NO secession. Don't people read history, don't they understand anything? This is just flat stupid, even by the low standards of my native state.
     
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    They're talking about trifurcating the state, making three new states. California is not considering leaving the Union.
     
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    Actually it proved just the opposite. West Virginia is pretty clear evidence of the same.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Yeppers:

    Wiki speaketh thusly:

    West Virginia became a state following the Wheeling Conventions of 1861, after the American Civil War had begun. Delegates from some Unionist counties of northwestern Virginia decided to break away from Virginia, although they included many secessionist counties in the new state.[12] West Virginia was admitted to the Union on June 20, 1863, and was a key border state during the war. West Virginia was the only state to form by separating from a Confederate state, the first to separate from any state since Maine separated from Massachusetts, and was one of two states admitted to the Union during the American Civil War (the other being Nevada). While a portion of its residents held slaves, most of the residents were yeomen farmers, and the delegates provided for gradual abolition of slavery in the new state Constitution.
     
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    From what I’ve gathered, the current plan (if passed) in California is to divide into 3 states according to one businessman’s idea. Why would the measure be tied to his ideas? I’ve read in the past that the northern conservative California area and southern and western conservative parts of Oregon had been kicking the idea of breaking away from their respective states and forming a new state called Jefferson or something like that. Then there’d be no need to further subdivide the rest of California since the rest of the state is largely liberal. Formerjughead could shed some light on this notion if he’d visit every now and then. He’s from Chico, California.
     

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