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  1. Javey74

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    Javey: Take into account the original reason you posted here. Was it to just share the myths to a bunch of interested people or begin a conversation/debate upon a topic? When you post a list if myths, regardless of their origin, that will be hotly debated, as we can see above. Thats the idea of myths and legends. Its in bad form to call out two prominent members of the forum in the manner in which you displayed. In addition, the members here are detailed and concise regarding all manners of discussion, especially for sources. In the current climate this is not only important but necessary. There is alot of bullshit floating around the web and the members will be taken to task to cite reputable sources.
     
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    As of yet, none of my responses have been "flippant." My response are constructed after doing a bit of this thing we call "research." You should try it some time.

    Ok, maybe this response was flippant.


    It is an "informed opinion...Thanks all the same.

    But if you post BS like; Hitler never visited a single concentration camp!, 1b. It is said that Churchill coined the phrase 'It is ‘better to jaw-jaw than to war-war'., What do you know about Yalta? With Churchill's steer, the conference became the template for the widely accepted method, 1k. DID YOU KNOW?
    Hitler Pioneered the Blow-up Dolls!, 1j. DID YOU KNOW? Hitler never visited a single concentration camp!, and 1m. DID YOU KNOW?
    Hitler’s Original Family Name Was Schicklgruber!

    Most of which I know are either false or misleading...I will call you on them.


    I am not an expert, and don't claim to be...But I do know BS when I see it.


    So, you have been on various forums where people post BS, and it is unquestionably accepted as Gospel Truth...That is a real shame.


    Kid...I could tell you many stories about arguing with college professors and proving them wrong. The trick is to only argue when you are sure that you are right, and can back your position.


    You have that reversed...To let supposed "experts" pass of BS as Gospel Truth is just damn right ignorant.


    You are right...This is a forum of debate.

    Since this is a forum of debate could you please answer my question posed to you concerning Yalta?
    To refresh...
    I would like to continue this debate, but you seem not to have responded to this or have forgotten to do so...I look forward to seeing your answer.


    Sorry, I only respond to threads that actually pique my interest. I don't pad my post count by respondin
     
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    Sorry, I was busy constructing my last response.

    Congratulations on posting the link...Now what about the previous list of your first post?

    Edit - OK, maybe this was a little flip too.
     
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    That was rather unnecessary. Casting aspersions on an entire country based on this thread, LOL.
     
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    Javey there are plenty of things you said that are wrong, and just plain offensive in that paragraph there. There are snarky and ill mannered people everywhere on this Earth, even the U.K has it's fair share, Takao and lwd were merely pointing out simple mistakes, and were responding IN A POLITE MANNER, if anyone started being rude, it was you."After all you did not enter it till December 1941 with Pearl Harbour, so concentrate on the Japanese and you can rant and rave as much as you like about that!" Hundreds of thousands of Americans died in Europe by the way, and I'd love to see you tell a WW2 veteran who fought in Europe, that his contribution doesn't count. Most people who come on to the forum, MOST, don't come in and impose their will and make false claims and personal jabs at other members, and the forum has grown quite a bit since I joined in October of 17'.
     
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    Whoo Boy! Talk about "Totally arrogant with egos..." You can throw in some youthful piss-and-vinegar with that totally arrogant with ego.

    With tongue planted firmly in cheek...(no disrespect meant to out other members across the pond)

    Let the British and Europeans discuss the European war???
    You mean those two World Wars that you could not win without outside help. Those wars?

    But I digress...


    PS. I am still waiting for your response pertaining to Yalta. With the time you are taking, it should be a good one.
     
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    At the end of the day Javey, 95% of the people who join this forum, join to learn more. It can be pretty embarrassing to be wrong, and frustrating to be told you're wrong, trust me....and the "know it all's" KNOW what they're talking about, if you don't believe me, look at literally any of their posts outside of this thread.
     
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    Regretfully, my youthful friend, you posted several so-called "facts" that were in error. lwd and I pointed out to you these errors, and backed up our findings. You responded with the tried-and-true response that we have come to expect from individuals lacking in knowledge concerning the subject matter...I didn't write this, the "experts" did, take it up with them...Sadly, this is in error.

    You see, you have posted these "facts", ergo you own them...they are yours, you posted them, you believe them...Hence, the onus is on you to back up said "facts" when challenged, or else others will take them for exactly what they are, and what you let them be...Crap.


    PS. Still waiting on your Yalta response.
     
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    Ah...now that is classy.

    Sorry buddy, was trying to clue you in and give you a break...now you sound like you need to take your ball and go home. Not necessary.
     
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    Thank you for proving my point, that you are not interested in discussion...you are only interested in posting the opinions, expert or otherwise, of others, while having limited or no knowledge concerning the material you post.


    First you left out the qualifier...With tongue planted firmly in cheek

    Apparently, you also lack an understanding of American slang...So, let me school you.
    TONGUE IN CHEEK
    Tongue-in-cheek - Wikipedia


    Seriously my child...Prove me wrong! You have made zero, zilch, zip, effort to disprove my statements, and blatantly refuse to enter into any discussion on the matter - Despite pontificating on the fact that this is a discussion forum. Unfortunately, you have found it much easier to whine, cry, bemoan, rant, rave, and basically pitch a fit worthy of any two-year-old...Rather that do one iota of research to back up said "facts" that you have previously posted.

    So...stop throwing a terrible-two-tantrum...Do some research...And prove me wrong!


    What, exactly am I suppose to realize? That it is better to throw a tantrum than engage in an adult discussion to make my point? Thanks, but no thanks.


    Isn't that the one based on "Grey Wolf: The Escape of Adolf Hitler"
    We disproved that some time ago. As I recall, the author pitched a fit, like you are doing, and left without posting corroborating evidence to support his facts.

    I will also take this time to point out to you that the Co-Author of Grey Wolf, and one of the prime movers of Hunting Hitler, Gerrard Williams, is British - Not American.
    But, hey, you will believe what you want to believe...you will be right, there is no room for error in your replies and comments!




     
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    Isn't he...
     
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    Your more like a plugged nickle...
     
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    What a ridiculous, nonsensical comeback in which a quip does not follow the argument. Go read your newsletter.
     
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