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Discussion in 'The Stump' started by A-58, Feb 2, 2022.

  1. Half Track

    Half Track Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps I wasn’t wrong this time
     
  2. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Yep, it's about to get very interesting.
     
  3. CAC

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    Russia-Ukraine live updates: Explosions reported in Kyiv and other parts of Ukraine as interior ministry says Russia's invasion has begun - ABC News

    Some would say that he already has invaded...I want to know who will be doing the fighting...I know the Ukranians are actually up for a fight, they want to "finish this once and for all" and are pleased things have come to a head...But will any other country (Britain/France/Germany) actually be doing any fighting also? Surely Ukraine cannot do this by themselves?

    Nice front rank...
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  4. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Is it wrong to say that Germany has an old score to settle? There would be some former East and West Germans with long memories...
     
  5. RichTO90

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    The west has told Putin in no uncertain terms that they expect Ukraine to be the last of his territorial demands and have already chartered aircraft to fly to Munich for a final round of talks.
     
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  6. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    I think the time for diplomacy has passed. It appears airports and military installations have been taking fire. Missiles and artillery fire hitting different areas of Ukraine.
    Putin declaring he is going to demilitarize Ukraine.
     
  7. CAC

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    Sounds like its kicked off...Nobody has reported on what the Spetsnaz is up to...
     
  8. the_diego

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    So who's Putin's adviser, this guy?
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  9. Half Track

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    How do the Russians feel about this war, especially the mothers and wives of their soldiers? I don’t know a lot, but I doubt that any other countries would get involved to help Ukraine as far as military. And I would think that Putin won’t go further, across into other countries. At this point, Russia has claimed that only military installations are under attack, not so sure about that. Also extremely unlikely that U.S. troops would be drawn into this. And my stocks……………who cares.
     
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  10. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Russia has attacked Ukraine with full force. A lot of neighbouring countries are Nato-countries. If Putin touches them NATO must reply with military force against the Russians. At the moment we are forced to expect major defensive force By the Ukrainian Army.
     
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    I heard that there are attacks to airport near Kiev and other cities that have air ports. It is assumed special forces would land and invade the cities and cut the defensive measures and land also more infantry behind the lines. Remember Eben Emael. Also the Soviet Navy is attacking the Ukrainian naval ports. There are attacks from Belarus, Eastern Ukraine and Crimea. Seems like cutting the Ukraine in halves.
    Putin knows he is on his own now. He must win or lose.
     
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    And Ukrainian civilians are asked to arm themselves by their president. Could get very bloody. A war. What else.
     
  13. Biak

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    Kuwait all over again ?

    And why Ukraine ? No one had hardly heard of Ukraine until 5 - 6 years ago.
     
  14. Kai-Petri

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    Putin says he hates it when NATO is getting member countries from the east. Looks like Putin needs countries to support him and 8 years ago he took Crimea from Ukraine. He also made demands that Ukraine has failed to follow. There has been years of fighting in Eastern Ukraine between Russian supported separatists and Ukraine army with 14 000 dead. I guess Putin decided after Syria to get more land in Eastern Europe.
    Ukraine might be just a start if you ask why Ukraine...unfortunately.
    The latest news tells of military helicopters attacking the Kiev airport.
     
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    I heard some jackass on Fox News say this is all the USA's fault for not giving Russia what it demanded.
     
  16. Biak

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    That's exactly what you'd expect from what has become a Russia sympathizer propaganda organization. I also heard that Russia isn't Communist. Uh yeah okay sure !

    Russia has just verified why Ukraine requested to join NATO. His demands shows the true paranoid, insecure and delusional thinking.
    It's too bad we acquiescence to Stalin after WW2 .
     
  17. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Opinions are like bung holes, everybody has one. And you should know by now that reporters try to shape their audiences views with a lot of their viewpoint, not to report the news.
     
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  18. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Folks need to realize the majority of so called News media are not reporters but ratings whores. With over three hundred million people in the US it only takes an influenced minority to reek havoc.
     
  19. Kai-Petri

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    Saw a speech by Putin claiming that in Ukraine the government of nazis have killed Ukrainians and Russians living in Ukraine for years, so he is changing the government similar to that in Belarussia. So he is a peace maker according to the propaganda. There is no opposition in Russia anymore.
     
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    NATO is increasing troops in Eastern Europe. I read they are moving 800 US troops to Baltic countries from Italy. AH-64 choppers to Poland, and F-35 planes to Poland and Estonia. The planes are Durch and German. Not sure about the choppers.
     
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