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  1. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Proxy Wars are smoke & mirrors for civilian consumption to cover the wants of Politicians or more to the point Big Business. A third world war while possible is highly unlikely. Who would join Putin? China would be the only significant country and it would be an economic disaster for them. Putin has shown that Russia has lost what credibility in warfare capabilities it may have had are currently inadequate at best.

    M.A.D. was a Reagan scare tactic, sort of like his proposed Supply Side Economics was beneficial (?). The USSR had far fewer nukes than it boasted it did but Reagan built on that threat. Realistically it only takes a dozen or so. North Korea is a good example.
     
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  2. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    Only in 21th century the US fought a dozen of wars.

    Why didn't EU complain?

    Because the EU were complicit in that crimes.

    By the way: how many wars they've won? None! They've just attacked and then left. Because the war itself was an objective: destruction, killing, terror, intimidation.. That were the objectives. In that sense of war they've won all 21th century US wars. A war just to cause terror.
     
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  4. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    I recall how almost all countries were against the Iraq war and there were a load of volunteers from Europe on the roofs of Hospitals etc. However, thinking 20/20 The US had better accurate laser rockets but Russia don't give a shit. Also the US admitted there were no biological etc weapons later on and there were even movies about this. Russia just attacked and practically told about the reasons to Russians only and that it was not a war. Who recalls the US biological lab story anymore? I find it just the usual Russian funny bit that they accused the Ukrainian government being neo-nazis and drug users. Is that a reason to start a war anywhere?? In Russia there are skinheads showing nazi flags and telling Russians are the new aryans. Why are they not arrested? Suits you, sir. Russians just started the war when we were prepared to continue making a better friendship, more transactions, more travelling both sides, more learning of the language even after 2014. Now it's dead and we don't see it coming back. We Finns remember the Winter War and now it's all coming back. We have a saying " never trust a Russian even if fried in butter " and our foreign minister when asked 20 years ago who are our three worst enemies said " Russia, Russia,Russia". There are constant situations Soviet planes enter our air space without saying sorry. They just say this has not happened.ok, shoot the plane down if it is not Russian. Maybe then there would be some shouting. Anyway, the longer the Ukraine war goes on, I recommend let the Poles loose. They hate Russians to the core. Katyn? Division of Poland 1939. The Germans even got intelligence details from the USSR who to arrest in 1939. And by the end of WW2 moved Poland to west some 200 kilometres. Not only Germans but also Poles had to move their homes. Happy Now?
    Btw, do not mention the Mainila shooting that Russia already admitted doing itself or the Kuusinen government which Stalin created himself and told it was the only government he would negotiate with about peace. Russian military history is a joke to us. Comparing it to the US is not helping here a bit. Just pitiful.

    If it is true 70% of Russian Army readiness is used in Ukraine it will take years to make it back to its combat strength. It seems to me there will be more battles and losses ahead. If you have a brain. To be exact.

    Foreign ships not leaving Ukraine? WHO the f**** told Russian battle ships to block the Sea route and shoot the cities with artillery? Mr P I presume. Not the Ukraine government. Get your act together.

    Tamino,
    This is a ww2 site. We talk of ww2. Move away if you cannot do that. I even bet you are not living outside of Russia. We don't need this s*** when all we want to do is talk about ww2

    Btw, when was the latest time you talked of ww2?? Time to move on elsewhere, really?

    How come you never talk about the war in the Balkans when Serbs killed people due to ethnic cleansing. Sarajevo was surrounded for years and snipers shot civilians going to work. Russia sent tanks and weapons to Serbia. Got a thing to say or do you support killing civilians??! Or do you know a shit about this? I was there in NATO and UN troops and learnt more about the Slavic Culture. EU needs Hitler for a year now.
     
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  5. Takao

    Takao Ace

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    Same, same for Russia...So why is your beef only with the US?

    Hypocrite much?
     
  6. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Blääh. Either he is pro-Putin or does not know s*** what Russia is doing. The funny part is Russia is getting its ass kicked.Another set of lies on its way. It was not drug users, they have no proof of American chemical weapons lab, and now they must admit it was a war that they started. That is something. But there is ca 10,000 Javelins waiting for tanks and troop carrier vehicles. Have a nice day! I doubt the new troops would run into certain death. What is 1,000 more new men. Absolutely nothing.

    In which sports the Slovenians were extremely good last weekend and on which days. Actually. You seem to discuss like American time lines not European day times. Why is That? Wrong country?

    According to site time table you were last here about 2 am or Greenwich time 12 hrs pm. Now it is 12 hrs pm in Europe. Wonder when and where you wake up.

    In Bucha Ukraine according to news 300 civilians are buried and there are tens of bodies laying In the streets. Why Russians? I see you in prison for life. You deserve it.
     
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  7. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    First, I ain't no Rusky,

    If you are really so eager to know my location/ethnicity ask moderators, they have my IP address. But do you realy think that reasoning of a sane and intelligent person depends on location/ethnicity

    And if you already insist: I am a Conservative Practicing Christian, a Central European and I have my own head to think and do not let propaganda cloud my judgement.
    But obviously, you are comfortable just when there is a 100% consensus and in total agreement with your prejudices. Sometimes your prejudices border on pathologic obsession with Russia.

    C'mon!
     
  8. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    PS:
    But if you really insist on revealing my identity, that's me:


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  9. Half Track

    Half Track Well-Known Member

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    And having been here as long as you have, and with your number of posts I would think you would have known better than to post this garbage.
     
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  10. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Yes, he is an irritant and has been close to the edge several times. He is slick and keeps his comments just barely out of the ditches.

    But, as Kai noted, we rarely, if ever, see any commentary on the forum's focus, with him instead preferring to stir shit with a large paddle.

    It has gotten old.
     
  11. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Great news pro-Putinists. In Butsha, a City just taken from retreating Soviet troops, the streets are full of killed civilians many of who were shot to head from close range. Also a mass grave has been found. Putin promised to release Ukrainians from neo-nazis but killing innocent civilians in hundreds instead. I guess it will Turn to no prisoners taken.
    If Putin uses chemical/biological weapons or nukes, the people of Russia will die the same way. Putin does not care about anything else than his power. Let the Russians die who cares.
     
  12. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    No ww2 talk even now. Just your I am Jesus Christ and people attack me without a reason. First you attack, then you are a martyr. Wonder how you survive the Butsha massacres. Your lovely Red Army Killing civilians all through the City. Go join the Russian Army if you are a true believer. Over here you are someone who believes a dictator like god. Who would sent you to death gladly. And no ww2 info just compare with me. 24,000 to 1, I win. Easily. Just sharing ww2 here is all it takes. But you simply don't have the means, do you. Your business is to disturb us.
     
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  13. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    Oh, you are an oligarch. That explains it all.

    Seems like you have a memory problem. I said we considered Putin a modern businessman who is a great politician as well . Suddenly he turns out to be a power hungry dictator who threatens us with consequences. Anyway, your miracle god kills you as well with nukes if he is losing. Nice to see you did not understand that part.
    Time to dig your own grave ready.
    Ending now all communication. Why those Aryan eyes btw. Simo Häyhä pic wins yours, the minor farmer. What is it you people must always be like a Zar or King? Simo is the best.
     
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  14. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    It appears that there is a certain degree of anger because you can not agree with me. Do you feel uncomfortable with the truth? I understand that and I'm not surprised. That's just an effect of propaganda echo chamber.

    This is the best illustrated with the historic photo below.

    I must withdraw before the mob becomes really angry... bloodthirsty.

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    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    You are just trying to make me angry. Funny how you ignore my saying about Putin before. Anyway, I leave you in this empty room to wait for the tactical nuke attack. And I ask the OKF to move all Ukraine threads to c**** section. Maybe that will send you away. No place to comment. And ww2 You know nothing about. Cheers.
    Terv Kph
    Oh yes. Your last sentence. The Martyr, like I said, strikes again. And again.
     
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  16. Takao

    Takao Ace

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    The West's propaganda echo chamber or Putin's echo chamber? I am confused why you vilify one echo chamber, but parrot the other echo chamber.

    Oh well, the world does need sheeple.
     
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    One was too tired to raise his hands (why was he even there?) The other's an attention-seeking fool.
     
  18. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Sorry just had to drop this off.
    edit: New Ukraine Postage stamp. really!
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  19. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    I read that the Ukrainians are getting land-to-sea missiles. I sure hope they get some of those exocet missiles. Then the harbours will be open again.
    The satellites show tens of graves digged Around Butsha. It was under Russian rule until recently. The Russians will get more and more restictions and China cannot help you enough economically. I think China even gets cheaper gas etc and in a document some five years ago Russia paid alone for the new gas pipe and sold gas for very cheap because the markets are choked in the west. China profits for the Russians problems.
    All this is in the news. Trying to blame me for lies is just hilarious. Before you know China has sucked you dry.
     
  20. Tamino

    Tamino Doc - The Deplorable

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    Who is of-topic now? I, you, all of us or none?
    Or you consider Russia bashing is the only alternative?
    Then who will defend the Devil? Whoever the Devil is!?!?

    Indeed, flying the Russian flag.
     

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