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  1. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    High maintenance ? The B21 is specifically built for quick mission turnaround and easier upgrade capabilities, no "Block" changes. Cost ? Per plane cost versus the F35 expenditures will be a bargain.
    The AGM 158 is only as good as the Platform that gets it close enough to do any good. The B21 will be able to launch just outside the door of the house it wants to take out. The P-8 needs someone to tell somethings heading where it shouldn't be.
     
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    Ummm...Nooooo.

    High maintenance cost to maintain it's stealth skin...There is a reason why the B-2 maintenance costs are 3 times more than the much older B-52 & B-1 bombers.

    Stealth capability does not come cheap. Unless, you prefer a stealth aircraft that isn't stealthy.

    The newer 158s have ranges of 575 & 1,200 miles...You don't need to get "that" close.

    If your firing missiles, you already know that something is headed where it should not be.
    Check out "Rapid Dragon"...C-130s & C-17s are now 158 capable platforms for mass firings of 158s.


    If the Raider has to get that close...Your pooch is already screwed.
     
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    someone called/like Trump could leave Australia alone at a time of need…Britain during WW2 all over again. We have other potential enemies that the US may not care to help us with…the US may be busy themselves…Look at Ukraine now.
     
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    A US plane made with US parts carrying US weapons...If the US is out of the equation...No US parts or US weapons...Do you see where this is going?

    Same same, the Ukraine is not getting a boatload of Abrams or Leo 2s, but are getting ex-Soviet hand-me-down tanks...No parts or ammunition produced in Ukraine. It all has to come from outside countries.
     
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    Exactly...Which is why the US and Australia are building fuel stores in Darwin and elsewhere. The US is also building facilities in Darwin and elsewhere as a storage depot...This will include ordnance/parts no doubt for ships, tanks, submarines and aircraft. What if the US is cut off from Australia for 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months? We will have to continue the mission by ourselves.
    If we bought the aircraft we would expect details such as stealth skin to be passed onto us (As the US says it will give us its nuclear technology if we go with a US sub...We dont want to be reliant on them, they don't want to be responsible for us either).and we can produce it ourselves.
    All the conflicts the US/Australia have taken part in in the last 50 years HASN'T been China...So we are not just talking about a conflict with China here. Australia bombed quite a bit in the Middle East...Having to use our F-18s to do the job...Some B-21s would have been better...
    I think Australia should, and probably will invest heavily in missile tech over the next decade...including hyper sonic missiles. This in concert with stealth aircraft and drones will put Australia in a strong position against its potential enemies.
    Australia's Loyal Wingman -
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    We may not even get the B-21...Its conjecture at the moment.
    An impression of our hyper sonic missile...
    Its important to note that Australia wants to show the US (And the world) that its willing to spend its OWN time and money on its own defence. Something Trump would approve of, and something that helps with US politics and its assistance to Australia.

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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Well I simply felt like sharing the roll out of the newest bomber in the US arsenal but see thats gone off the rails rather quickly.
    No need to defend nor question because just like everything in Life not everyone is going to be happy.
    Myself, I've found it's easier to IF Asked, help when needed, give my opinion, offer my advice (once), then shut up. I haven't met anyone yet that has changed their mind due to anything I've said. At least none who've admitted it.
     
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    I think you have sparked a good conversation mate...I welcome a chance to tell my US bretheren what their little mate is doing. I'm sure most Australian news doesn't make it to your 6 o'clock news...
    There ARE arguements for and against any acquisition...And the B-21 could be a game changer, so a more in depth conversation is warranted...

    And you've made me think twice on a bunch of occasions...
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I knew some Aussies back in the early '70s. They were medical types come to the jungle to try and help out. No official name, that wasn't where they were at.
     
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    Could you expand on that? Sounds interesting...
     
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    They might have been missionaries from some nursing order or something. In uniform but unarmed. That's why I remember them.
     
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    Salvation Army?
     
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    I'll admit to it.

    And thanks for sharing!
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Yeah and I ain't met ya yet either.

    But thanks guys! Wait til' I show your posts to my wife. Now I can say, "Remember that time I was right ? I think did it again".
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Definitely not. I went to Bangkok with them at one point.
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    How about from Darwin? Got friends in Darwin.
     
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    Yeah your friends sound as interesting as you...
    Darwin is on the coast...We have a RAAF base here (quite famous actually) but its proximity to the coast and Indonesia doesn't give much "scramble" time...The 21s (IF we got them) would probably be based in Katherine...thats 333km south of Darwin...We put a lot of 35s there too, so if a missile or aircraft comes for our aircraft, they have a fair way to go once past the coast...Our aircraft will be in the air before it/they hit.

    RAAF Base Tindal - Katherine
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    Tindal named after the first person to be killed in action on Australian soil. He was a pilot on leave in Darwin, and spotted the Japanese aircraft coming...He jumped on a K-gun and started shooting the shit out of any low flying fighter...A Zero spotted him and straffed him with machine gun and cannon...Tindal was ripped apart. But his actions will live forever. What a champion, defending my home town.

    Katherine on the map.
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    On the Ground...
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    One of my Darwin friends is literally a supergenius. IQ of fuck-me.
     

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