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Discussion in 'Free Fire Zone' started by CAC, Mar 15, 2022.

  1. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    You know better than that. Afghanistan is apples and oranges. Russia has military complexes, industrial complexes, infrastructure…All of which would be dust inside two weeks with the US and NATO countries barely raising a sweat.
    Plenty of land was bought, don’t make me teach you your own history…And Mexico is hardly the US or NATO…
    Your comparisons are loose to say the least….

    NEXT!
     
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  2. EKB

    EKB Active Member

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    I know that sort of bluster doesn't win wars and as Churchill once said, wars are not won by evacuations.



    The U.S. Army's own Web site is more objective:

    "One of the remarkable achievements Ulysses S. Grant is known for even today, are his extraordinary accounts of his life published 1885 after his death, The Personal Memoirs of U.S. Grant, in two volumes. They are an amazing literary accomplishment but even more so, his candor, honesty and simplicity are breathtaking at times. As a young lieutenant, he formed an opinion about the Mexico-U.S. War 1846-48 that remained with him until his death and echoes down the hall as generations have come and gone.

    "For myself," Grant wrote later about the United States war against Mexico, "I was bitterly opposed to the measure, and to this day regard the war, which resulted, as one of the most unjust ever waged by a stronger against a weaker nation."


    Grant in Mexico:

    And yes, wildly undervalued payments were made to keep up appearances.
     
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  3. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Can’t speak for NATO, but Australia has had quite a lot to do with the US military…Bluster is not a word they use…They study killing to the inth degree, and are the most ‘willing’ military I’ve seen in my 50+ years.(Something Churchill discovered himself in time)
     
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  4. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    My only take on Russia versus Ukraine is : WE don't have anything to worry about. The fighting might of the Ukrainian people is but a microcosm of what the USA would unleash on any dumb ass that attempts something like Putin did in our Hemisphere.
    Peace !
     
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  5. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    And if you DID fight them, it would cost the U.S. MANY times what its currently spending...Lives and dollars.
    Ukraine is doing the West a HUGE favour by taking them on themselves...The least we can do is support them in ANY way they need.
    Many numpties in the western countries don't understand why we are all spending money on this fight...in a way, its a good sign they don't understand war or international politics. Their forefathers fought and died so they don't have to understand it - Just get along with their lives...Which im sure the Ukrainians (and the vast majority of Russians) just want to do also.
     
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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    With all do respect Bush Senior showed just how it could and in my opinion should/would? be done in any Future conflicts. The only consternation of any Government is the perception of the masses and the ramifications of the radical influences.
    Shortly after the invasion of Ukraine began the cry was heard here in the US that we were depleting our own munitions. My thinking is, If supplying a Country the size of Ukraine and being joined with several other Countries, quickly uses up what we have on hand we're in deep sh#t if China decides they want the the South China Sea. Putin is basically impotent other than his rhetoric. Dangerous but like most politicians, a burr under the saddle.
     

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