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Discussion in 'Military Vehicle Restoration' started by bronk7, Oct 29, 2015.

  1. Sheldrake

    Sheldrake Member

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    So they converted a fine 8" Howitzer into some kind of muzzle loading cannon

    Pity, I quite fancied the idea of owning my own nuclear delivery means. ;)
     
  2. KodiakBeer

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    Yup. If I was lucky enough to find an 8 inch demilled howitzer that I could afford, I think it would be worth jumping through the ATF hoops to restore it.
     
  3. Sheldrake

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    Doesn't ATf get a little harder if you want to own a weapon covered under international arms limitation talks? I know the US has very liberal gun laws but surely there is a line drawn at ordnance capable of firing nuclear or chemical warheads?
     
  4. Takao

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    AFAIK, the nuclear shells are what is covered under the international arms limitation treaties...Not the artillery pieces themselves.

    As the gun has been "demilled", it is little more than a very large one of these
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    And when you transport them...Well, everybody notices you
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  5. KodiakBeer

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    I don't think there's any limitations on the size of the gun. There might be practical limitations depending on how it was demilled - if somebody had cut off the breech block slides I don't think I'd trust any welded on replacement with a gun generating those kind of pressures.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IeEa8tqUkE
     
  6. Takao

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    The DeGroat 90mm was not demilled, but was ATF Form 3.

    He had it up for sale back in 2008 for trade or $125,000 delivered. AFAIK, it was sold in late '08 - early '09.
     
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    I didn't mean to suggest it was demilled, just another large gun. I'd love to have something like that, or an 88mm Flak rather than say, a 105 or 155 just because you could shoot at a line of sight target like a rifle, as intended. I had a picture on my timeline of a friends FB page with an 88 that somebody in Tennessee owns. I could use a gun like that for coyotes.

    My birthday is coming up in March if you guys wanted to get together... just sayin'...
     
  8. USMCPrice

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    The 105 and 155 howitzers can fire line of sight, direct fire. It is and was, a commonly practiced and not rarely used method of fire. I think what would best serve you for coyote sniping would be a 75 or 105mm recoiless rifle with .50 cal spotting rifle attached. The 75mm is man portable (had a friend I went to SF school with that was a Ranger and jumped an M67 90mm into Grenada) and has been around since WWII.
     
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    Yeah, I know, but that wasn't the intent. I just like AT guns or guns like the 88 and 90 that became AT guns. I'd settle for a nice little 37 or 57mm gun. Probably save a lot of money on powder and still destroy stacks of bricks or coyotes at any useful range.
     
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    Just how big are those Coyotes any way? Did you buy some land formerly used to test nuke's?
     
  11. KodiakBeer

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    I have enough land to shoot a big gun. I'm used to debates with my wife on why I "need" a new gun. So, I tend to use that argument even when I just want it for fun.
     
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    Yeah, that would be cool. Go with the 37mm, save a ton on powder, small enough to drag around with a jeep. Have to train the wife to be an A-gunner so you can grab the trails to shift it.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utaE6cRcgzY
     
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    A later update says the mishap occurred while they were firing a round. So, not a hangfire or something like that. It also makes clear that the gun was demilled and then restored. I'm not sure how such a gun is demilled, but I suspect you'd cut the cut the breech or breech ring or both, if that's true it wouldn't be just a matter of replacing parts, you'd have to tool a new part or weld up the part (s)? It sounds like a failure of a repaired breech or breech ring.

    http://www.ktvz.com/news/explosion-in-tank-east-of-bend-injures-2-possible-fatality/36082806
     
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    I needed an excuse to get rid of all this ''extra'' $ I have...

    ''restored 76mm''---o!...yes what does that mean?? ...great add on article....the comments were interesting with some more info
     

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