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He had a a green card. A resident alien. They are permitted to purchase guns also. I have no idea why.

 

SMEG , I WAS REFERING to the gun prohibitions on campus grounds ...the halls of higher learning are the most leftish p.c. bastions anywhere in america ...guys like v.t. s hinkler are the perect example of this silly gun fearing cult ...they fear guns so much that they even disarmed thier own police force ...a gun is an inanimate object ,it is incapable of action on its own ...like a car or an ax or a cricket bat ..these things cannot kill people by themselves ...when i ride my mountain bike down the shoulder of a country road ,complete strangers wizz by me in 2000lb cars at 50 mph..i do not fear then ,though it would be very easy for any one of them to kill me ..when ride past a crew of inmates weilding brush hooks ,shovels and chainsaws , am i afraid ?...noooo and these guys are prisoners ,low grade convicts ...still i am not afraid ...what i do fear is that fools like hinkler and the lady at the skating rink get to vote just like me ...they who are so clueless as to think that disarming law abideing citizens ...makes all of us somehow safer ..they even disarmed their own police force? ,wow that is really EXTRA safe ,makes one feel all warm and cozy inside seeing these great minds at work protecting public saftey ...this thoughtless fear of guns themselves is one of the big downsides of giveing women the vote imo ..i dearly love all the women in my extended family but alas they feel that guns themselves ...possess some malevolent evil juju intrinsicly ...as do all universty board of directors and faculties apparently ...wow ,think how safe we could all be if we disarmed the military too ...super duper extra safe !!!!

 

Actually 'Poms' is shortened from 'Pommies' which is how 'Pomes' is pronounced...

A Pome is a "Person Of Mother England"

Hoosier,
thanks for the clarification. It seems a lot more reasonable with those facts... The image I got was of a holstered Smith & Weston revolver, seeing as that is the standard our Police Force. Also no-one over here would place any trust whatsoever in anyone claiming to be a police officer; there are plenty of crims smart enough to get away with impersonation and I am sad to say the police force has a bad rep among the general public... I wouldn't have panicked because I wouldn't have gone ice skating with a gun.

And it was 28 gun massacres in 10 years, actually, which gave us the same massacre-rate as America, but in a country with one tenth the population... I was a kid but my parents were vey happy about the new gun laws... There have been far less massacres since

 

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the origin of " poms " is debated up to this day at the pub aroud a schooner of beer ,
it would have been a sneering name for freshly arrived convicts , given to them by seasonned old timers , having served their time and received their ticket of leave .
The crime equivalent was in today terms
less than stealing a video ... flogging , stealing a car ... hanged , in between .... australia for seven years , never to return
in the early days pretty much everybody was a guard or a convict . the convicts being the "good"guys , the guards the bastards, called "the rum corps"

for more of inner sydney kulture go watch , the movie " BRA boys "



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smeg your parents distaste for guns was no doubt passed down to you ,this makes your opinion much more understandable to me ...i take it that your parents were not reared in the countryside ,americans from urban areas are also much more likely to be fearful of guns ,i belive this is something that is based more on a lack of exposure to and training with firearms than anything else ..urban americans see guns in movies and news stories almost alway shown in a very negative light ...ie criminal violence ,action movies or rural hicks murdering bambi for sport ...the hollywood elite and the news media elite tend to be quite left of center and their depictions of guns are almost always strongly biased...

 

Majorwoody - the trouble with this kind of statement is that it is eminently possible to point out your bias for firearms, and point to your parenbts & background as to why.

 

ricky ..id appreciate if you did not point at my parenbts ,or at my mother and father either....its is true that both of my folks grew up in gun owning familys ...my dad grew up in a gritty suburb of pittsburg pa ...though not in the country at all ,the men folk spent many weekends walking my young fathers legs off while shooting squirels and rabbits in farmers feilds and then canning ( in mason jars) this meat for leaner times ..these were not sporting events so much as putting meat on a very crowded table durring the depression (13 adults and 20 kids ) in one big rambling house ..my grandfather if he came upon a sitting rabbit would use his slingshot so as to save a shot shell (which cost 3 cents ) ...my moms family was more affluent but lived in the white tail deer capitol of pa and all the males were avid hunters too...i admit to a pro gun bias born of a life where guns were in plain sight ( in a locked glass cabinet ) and were used as tools for food gathering or target shooting...no one in my family tree going back to the 1776 revolution ever shot anyone ...except for redcoats ,redskins , rebels and revenuers and only in time of war...

 

Your parents obviously instilled in you a strong tendency towards double standards Woody...
While you can use the old sterotype "city-boys dn't know **** about guns", to that I would just say that "city-boys" represent most of the population, and while we don't as often feel the need to go varmint-hunting, we certainly don't need to alter the country's gun laws for the benefit of a minority... Besides, we recognise that farmers have different needs when it comes to guns and the law makes allowances for that... I believe that in the great showdown of 1862, the city-boys beat the country boys 1-0 and although I don't doubt that your average country boy can out-shoot the average bloke from the city... That doesn't mean that the beliefs or rights of the city folk have any less weight...


Besides, I just saw on the news... The guy had a criminal record for stalking 2 girls! Yet he still was able to purchase a gun.

Not suprisingly enough, I was assured by some of our American members that that people with criminal records could not purchase weapons.. :roll: Clearly there's something wrong with how that worked out

 

...i was makeing a little joke about a rare misspellig by ricky...where and how one is raised often colors the way a person sees the world , including myself ..i would suggest that a person raised in a home where guns are seen as normal household possesions has a better understanding of guns than say a person who gets most of his information from what is clearly an anti gun media elite ..its a fact that ordinary people use guns everyday to deter criminals from doing them harm but the people who write the news stories much prefer to report driveby gang shooting or accidents involveing children ...this media bias very much colors the way non gun owners perceve reality ..gun owners are subject to the same media bias but at least have some posetive personal experiance to counter balance the spin ...does that make sense? ....the civil war was not actually a war between country boys and city boys though this is a common enough myth...and convicted felons are not allowed to purchace or possess guns ,but being felons they often dont obey the rules ...i dont belive the korean nut was a convicted felon...just a nut

 

Well sorry about the misintepretation, I didn't think it made much sense... :-? And I agree with you about experiences shaping perspectives, but just because you're a crack shot it doesn't mean you can claim some 'higher authority' when it comes to gun laws... gun laws affect everyone...

I'm not sure if anyone else watched the show (It was CNN news) but it said that he had been arrested by the police for stalking two different girls on two separate occasions... The judge had diagnosed him as "mentally ill" but concluded that he was not a danger and sent him back to school; convicted without punishment... And after this he bought the gun from a legit store just nearby the university, not via underground networks or anything... You can check these facts but thats what was on CNN

So from what I hear he did have a criminal record and he was able to buy a gun? Somebody else was at fault as wel... Perhaps the store owner didn't bother checking his record... Quiet nerdy respectable bookworm wanting to buy a gun... Doesn't really come across as threatening perhaps?

 

Also I know that what I said abot the civil war was a myth, just a joke about the city-boys

It is true to say however, that the Armies of the Potomac recruited largely from rural areas, seeing as the seceeding States were those in the South where agriculture was the entire economy... The icy north lands of the Union did not make farming the main industry, so much so that the abolition of slavery was a relatively small impediment for the Union, and many of the Union troops were city boys, but no small contributions were made by the southern loyalist Border States (whom the Union granted use of slavery as a means to maintain that economy IIRC: incentive for loyalty)

I often wonder whether if Lee had just stayed on the defensive, and not wasted his manpower at Antietam and Gettysburg, the South might very well have gotten away with secession...

 

The VT shooter had to have been convicted of stalking for it to have been on his record.I believe he was only accused of it and the victims declined to pusue legal action.

 

No, the blockade would have strangeled them in the end. The Union just had too much, as long as they were willing to fight.

 

smeg ..im not a crack shot ...but merely familiar with and comfortable arround firearms in the hands of non criminals with some measure of saftey training ......i too think lee screwed the pooch at gettysburg big time ...he let his ego get away from him and pissed his army away on bad ground ..had he kept his head , he might have forced the union to sue for peace ...the union commander dropped the ball when he did not catch lees busted army after gtybg and finish it off ..tired or not ,that was the crucial moment that could have ended the war ...imo

 

I think you're right on both accounts regarding Gettysburgh, but I couldn't see the Union sueing for peace, even with RLE in the Capitol.