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4th Canadian Armoured Division

Discussion in 'Western Europe 1943 - 1945' started by macrusk, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. macrusk

    macrusk Proud Daughter of a Canadian WWII Veteran

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    Hi Michelle!

    Many, many thanks for that list of references...as you may remember my Dad was a member of the Canadian Grenadier Guards (22nd Armoured Division) and served in NWE from July 1944 on to the end of the war.

    I just came into possession of a new 500-page book by BGen WJ Patterson called "Soldiers of the Queen - The Canadian Grenadier Guards of Montreal 1859-2009", so I am following what the Regiment went through almost day-by-day. Fascinating!
     
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    Brigadier R.W. Moncel (left) and Major-General Christopher Vokes, General Officer Commanding 4th Canadian Armoured Division,observing a German counter-attack, Sogel, Germany

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  4. ArcticWolf

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    Hi Macrusk

    Thank you for the info. My Father Trooper Moise Amyotte served with the SAR from 40-46 when he was discharged.

    I actually came across some South Alberta War Diaries from a friend who's father was in the same regiment as my Dad. Small world eh :)

    Thank you so much for the links!
     
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    Well done Macrusk!!

    Thanks for the info
     
  6. freebird

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    Thanks for the links!
     
  7. ArcticWolf

    ArcticWolf Member

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    Here are some other links for the 4th Canadian Armoured / South Alberta Regiment

    Check these out :)
    Holland to London dash for V.C.

    Various shots of Major David Vivian Currie of the 29th Canadian Armoured Reconnaissance Regiment in his tank in Holland. Various shots of him after he has dashed back to Buckingham palace to receive his Victoria Cross, he is Canada's first man to receive it for services in Europe. He shakes hands with a police inspector.
    HOLLAND TO LONDON DASH FOR V.C. - British Pathe

    Invasion scenes Europe: British troops. Possibly France.

    Various shots of British soldiers driving past on tanks in countryside (possibly France). M/Ss and C/Us of soldier sitting down washing his feet in bowl. L/Ss of convoy of tanks and Red Cross vehicles. Shots of military vehicles moving through streets of destroyed town. M/S of soldiers standing next to battered sign "SONSBECK". L/Ss of destroyed buildings. Wounded person being carried on a stretcher by members of the Red Cross. Several shots of tanks moving through the town.

    *NB: A website user has informed us that signposts in the film indicate that parts of it were shot in Udemmerbruch and Sonsbeck, Germany. It was probably shot in the first week of March 1945 and most of the armoured vehicles in the film have the "45" tactical sign which is the insignia of an armoured reconnaissance regiment.
    INVASION SCENES EUROPE: BRITISH TROOPS - British Pathe

    Stumbled across these while doing some research on the South Alberta Regiment :)
     
  8. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    Research Notes re my next reply:

    Armored wiki:
    https://www.google.ca/#q=ww2+canadian+armored++wiki&safe=off
    Canadian Armoured Corps: http://mapleleafup.net/vehicles/cac/index.html

    Canadian Regiments of WW2 (Not all Regiments are listed and does not say what Division they were in. Grrr.)
    - http://army.ca/info/wwiiregts.php

    4th Canadian Armoured Corps Division: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4th_Canadian_Division
    5th Anti-tank Regiment, RCA

    5th Canadian Armoured Corps Division: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5th_Canadian_Division
    in addition to an independent armoured brigade and numerous smaller units.
    4th Anti-tank Regiment, RCA
    12th Canadian Infantry Brigade's other units: 4th Anti-tank Regiment

    http://www.forces.ca/en/glossary/glossary-102#R and http://www.militaryacronyms.net/r
    - brings up nothing for ROTCA
    - neither does http://www.forces.ca/en/search?zoom_query=

    WW2 Canadian Army Divisions
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_divisions_in_World_War_II
    or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Canadian_World_War_II_divisions

    Possible other hits:
    A.
    1st Canadian Army: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Canadian_Army
    2nd Tank Brigade - http://www.rcl-europe.org/1_cdn_army.html
    1st Hussars, Fort Garry Horse, Sherbrooke Fusillers

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Canadian_Division


    B.
    Royal Regiment of Canadian Artillery - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Regiment_of_Canadian_Artillery
    1st Canadian Infantry Division - 1st Anti-Tank Regiment
    2nd Canadian Infantry Division - 2nd Anti-Tank Regiment
    3rd Canadian Infantry Division - 3rd Anti-Tank Regiment
    4th Canadian (Armoured) Division - 5th Anti-Tank Regiment
    5th Canadian (Armoured) Division - 4th Anti-Tank Regiment
    I Canadian Corps Troops - 7th Anti-Tank Regiment R.C.A.
    II Canadian Corps Troops - 6th Anti-Tank Regiment R.C.A.
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    D Battery Anti-Tank ROTCA Fort Gary Obituary of another vet at: http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/timescolonist/obituary.aspx?n=donald-james-wannamaker&pid=117267712

    Again, any and all help would be MOST appreciated.

    Most of you know how good I am at searching WW2 history. This one has me stumped. (The quality and volume of Canadian history on-line is, IMHO, a national disgrace.)
     
  9. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    See also on our Sister Forum:
    4th Canadian Armoured Division September 1944 - http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/36129-4th-canadian-armoured-division-september-1944/

    4th Canadian Armoured Division - Battle of the Scheldt - http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/28393-4th-canadian-armoured-division-battle-of-the-scheldt/

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    5th Canadian Armoured Division in Italy - http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/38359-5th-canadian-armoured-division-in-italy/

    War Diary Perth Regiment, 5th Canadian Armoured Division - http://ww2talk.com/forums/topic/38917-war-diary-perth-regiment-5th-canadian-armoured-division/
     
  10. Fred Wilson

    Fred Wilson "The" Rogue of Rogues

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    Info / Notes gleaned out of my immediately preceding post:

    PS
    Thanks for this thread

    I just started research on a friends father.

    (This following comment will be deleted in a day or two, before he learns about this thread and drops in.
    - I'm hoping we can find some of the info he is after - which will spur is interest, and use this to help to get him out of his funk / depression...)

    His son is recovering from a liver transplant, is ill, very weak but all of a sudden expressed interest in learning a bit about his father.
    My friend is too ill to do anything more than Skype on the Computer, and his mother is 93 years old and is very frail and in failing health.
    So it is beyond their capabilities to apply for his WW2 Records. ± No other family.

    Albert Kitchener Hunt
    During WW2 he was in D Battery Anti-Tank ROTCA Based at one time at Fort Gary Manitoba Canada.
    He drove and operated virtually all and everything in the 3'd or 4th Anti-Tank Battalion
    - including motorcycle and sidecar, half tracks, flailing machines, tanks, mortar tanks (more often than regular tanks, multi- packs ??? term ??? (strap 4 mortars together and you have a pack) knee mortars, (braces on your knee) ... more coming later.

    He stayed on as a lifer moving on into the RCAF in their Supply Services Department based in ± Calgary Alberta.
    There is something personal of his marked 4th - so I assume / hope this is 4th Division.

    He died 2 decades ago, was married after the war and, like most veterans, did NOT talk about his experiences at all.

    They have no other information to go forward on - so any help nailing down which Division and Regiment he was in would be MOST appreciated.
     
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