About me: Over 40 years ago I left the Army Reserve as a Staff Sgt.with a nick-name of Hawk; hence my handle here. Never heard a shot in anger but was nearby when some clowns had accidental discharges that easily could have killed one of us. One of those clowns had a very nasty series of 'accidental' falls that night (consistent with their attitude) and was transferred out of the unit the following morning. Considered myself pretty tough-and in excellent health according to my Doctor-for my age until I turned 65. Apparently, my warranty expired on that birthday and a number of things fell apart. On 6/5/17 I will have the third surgery in about 18 months and then will only have three surgeries more to go. I'm from Dallas Texas. Love to go to my deer lease a couple times a month and hunt feral hogs by myself day or night. but my health has put that on the shelf for a while. Funny, but I had always planned to rappel off a 150 foot cliff at the deer lease during my 65th year just to show that I still could. Things did not work out that way but it still is on my bucket list and I plan on being around for many years. I doubt that the cliff will go anywhere. I am really into Coleman lanterns and have several hundred including a number near the 100 year old mark.My wife and I will celebrate our 47th anniversary this year and the kids have been on their own and very successful over 20 years; our 'baby girl is 42. Our only Grandchild is age 10, an excellent student and a star in every sport he plays. Although I played chess in college, the kid legitimately beat me at age four. He out ran me at age three and earned and has retained the nick-name "Rocket." My question: After hours of searching. I found this forum that I hope can help me understand why so many of our marines and soldiers had to die or be wounded physically or mentally trying to break the Okinawa Shuri line on places like Sugar Loaf when I have read that: The Japanese troops were dug in many, many yards below ground under Sugar Loaf and other connected underground strong points, I understand that Sugar Loaf was little more than the size of two football fields. Possibly one or two dozen AP shells into that area would two football fields plowed up 30 feet deep. While Sugar Loaf and other strong points were not on any map the Marines leadership darn sure knew they were there. The US battleships in the battle could fire armor piercing shells that could penetrate 20-30 feet of "reinforced concrete", The battleships had aerial spotters and The accuracy of the 16" guns apparently was +/- 250 yards or better. Never been near a 16" firing off but can still remember the pressure on my chest any time that I was anywhere near an M48 tank firing its main gun. It is a real puzzle to me that the underground strong points were not completely destroyed using 16" armor piercing shells. And if the shells did not destroy everything, wouldn't 10 to twenty hours of a constant mix of 16" AP and HE shells every few minutes left the remaining living combat ineffective in no shape to return to their bunkers, assuming their bunkers were still usable. What am I missing here? SSGHawk You can call me Sgt., or Hawk or whatever just not "Sue". “God Bless those who voluntarily go into harms way on our behalf whether wearing Camo, Blue or Red. And also Bless those who wait at home each night not knowing if............."