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Discussion in 'Information Requests' started by ULITHI, Nov 25, 2010.

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  1. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    I wonder if they could find anything bigger than 8" in California? Road trip may be called for. Aberdeen? (Would the cable slide around the shell? Would a slightly off-center shot snap the cable from blast effect? Could you fire Adam at the cable and he catch it as he goes past?)
     
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    Sounds like a Tory myth :) seriously though there must be something in the gunnery manuals? you got anything? I know we were always told not to shoot our antennas off with a 7.62 GPMG on a CVR(t), although never tried to see if it was possible. - like the old cavalry adage 'don't cut off your horses ears'
     
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  3. formerjughead

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    You guys are all over thinking it.
     
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    and you expect what....? :)
     
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  5. USMCPrice

    USMCPrice Idiot at Large

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    I know this is off topic but, which LHA were you on? Those are some good size boats, nearly the size of a WWII Essex class and actually displace about 6000t more. The reason I ask is that I did a float on the USS Peleilu, LHA-5. I thought it was huge until we sailed next to the Kitty Hawk and then I felt dwarfed. (I think it was the Kitty Hawk, at least that's what the nearby deck apes said she was).;)
     
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  6. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Actually, that would be a job the boatswains would coordinate with the radio shack. The shack would guarantee it was powered down and notify the deck apes they could stow it. Guns would simply have a check box on his list for getting underway.
     
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    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    Did we already discuss you being on the Peleilu?
     
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    Probably. I rattle on at times. LHA-5. (LHA stands for Largest Hotel Afloat.)
     
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    What time frame? We might have been on the same float. Hell you might have been one of the deck apes I spoke with. That would be a small world.
     
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    Summer of '83-Summer of '86. Three Westpacs in that time. Did you happen to cross the line in that window? And know a guy named "Kong"?
     
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    That was actually referenced to Price.....seems we have all three spent time on the Mighty Loo
     
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    I was A-Gang most of the time, Main Propulsion before that.
     
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    Is there still a "black gang", or has the Navy gotten too PC (or modern) for that?
     
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    You can't say "black board" or "flip chart" in the Navy now.
     
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    I must be a tard because I don't get the flip chart reference. Please elaborate.
     
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    Slang for Philippinos, "Flips". Apparently the word only has one meaning now. Makes me want to flip off the PC crowd at times, I get in such a black mood.
     
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    Did they still call them the "black gang" after the fleet was converted from coal burning?
     
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    Yeah, up through the '50s at least. It started dying out when African Americans were being integrated into the full range of billets, instead of just be stewards or cooks. An unreasonable number of them were steered into the engineering rates, and "black gang" started to be a very uncomfortable reality for folks who were scared by integration. The old salts were still using the term into the'70s.
     
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    Yeah, I guess there was a certain stigma attached to being a stoaker as well, having one of the dirtiest jobs on a ship.

    I had read that especially on the classic ocean liners of the early 20th century, that the black gang was associated with the bildge of society, and never far away from starting a fist fight or worse.
     
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    The Engineering track officers were considered lower-status in many navies, including the US. In the Kaiser's navy Jewish officers could only be Engineers.

    The "pit snipes" as they were called when I was active, had the reputation of being just plain scary. We did like to party. There are still pit snipes in the navy, but the billets are dwindling.

    The new gas turbine guys, I don't know, anybody got a read on the current status of those guys?
     
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