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A secret society started WWII in Europe. True or False?

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  1. ItaliaLegion

    ItaliaLegion Member

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    From my many years of research I have come to the conclusion that National Socialism and Italy's Fascist Social Republic had secret societies within the structure .
    These secret society's plans for new Visigothic Empire had come to life by being connected to think tanks in Germany .
    The Islamic idealogs that had left Germany and converted to Islam in Turkey or Albania were indeed National Socialist whom dabbled in black magic (Sufi Islamic Witchcraft .)
    These secret societies are perhaps mind foisted acknowledgment to foresee the end, thus seeing true value in Islam as a whole, the recommendations of using Islam as a fighting force for Germany in WWII was created in the 1920's by the leader of the Thule Society who had converted to Sufi Islam.

    The hatred towards the Jews was beyond radical to the Thule Society which had funded Hitler's uprising and were in fact think tanks for the National Socialist.

    Then you have the Vrill Society which prior to WWII , Hitler was believed to use Vrill in his speeches.
    (Vrill can mean when a person uses body language mixed with uniquely done timing of words formed into die-hard romantic European folklore literature with a hint of euphoric old Visigothic poetry used as analogies and adverbs with extra conflation to a certain meaning that appears in each sentence pronounced doubling into a significant pattern that depicts a special subject meaning that has been doused with adjoining supernatural ancient Runic words that are seen in. Germanic Pagan sigilism .
    Also Vrill can mean to control the mass spectrum of people in attendance with a Roman solute (fascist solute with the hand formed straight with all fingers pointing out simultaneously all fingers are connected and the palm is facing downwards while the back of the hand is facing towards the sky , all of this occurring while you're arm is extended in a 85°-94° angle .
    This notion that the National Socialist march toward with victory solute had been attended Vrill control patterns to be initiated into German society had concluded the true admirational prelude subject matter on the topics comprised of Secret Societies in Germany that were trying to create post Proto-European Aryanism (the worship of Aryan genetics, and the belief that parts of Humanity came from India and Iran, a ancient Indo-Aryan empire under the rule of the Indo-Aryan people .And the accordance master-race in Alantis called the Aryans had later become Indo-Aryans and that some tribal groups of Indo-Aryans had later breaded with Illyrian and Parthian descendants and had created the Proto-Germanic ethnicity.)


    Thus the secret society that been influencing the National Socialist party had reconciled their maveloant witchcraft that had been subjected to sigilism the Thule Society had bring their work to life by symbolic insignias and Runic lettering in German Military symbolism.
    It was indeed the Thule Society that had first used the runic Germanic Visigothic symbolism. Such as the
    Runic S that was later used as the symbol for the Waffen SS. So the Thule Society did have some existential influence on the National Socialist Party.

    This is not just one particular evaluation I have come to terms with on my own behalf, but this instead is a critiqued analytic historic research on the underground secret societies in Germany that had ties to the National Socialist Party.
    One more thing, Hitler was quoted saying " If Germany was a Mohammadin country and not Catholic then you would see Germans sacrifice themselves for Jihad to fight and try to defeat the enemy even if it means death , the Muslims are much more a war type people that can be used to Germany's advantage".
    The Thule Society's leader had also thought the same way when it came to Islam . So does this mean the Thule Society influenced Hitler to visit the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Leader of the Free Arabian Legion ( Prime Supreme Leader of the German and Italian enterprise of Islamic Dominion of Greece - aka 1st Islamic Greek Street Fighters Corp of Extraordinary Men. )

    The Thule Society also had used black magic to channel ancient Visigoth spirits of kings and knights.
    It is said that Himmler would dress in Knights Armour and channel the spirit of King Arthur . Himmler had believed he was descendant of King Arthur and the 12 SS officers that partaking in this black magic rituals where labled by Himmler to be the 12 Knights of Camelot. So essentially you would have had Himmler being King Arthur and his 12 knights of the round table , the 12 being the 12 SS officers that participated .
     
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    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    Conspiracy theories? Reddit/Conspiracy Theories.
     
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    True?
    False?
    Probably. It's a big total population.

    Binary Questions are good for coin flips and pot stirring.

    OTOH, the need to believe in something unbelievable seems to be part of human nature in humans. Except for those that need to believe there is nothing unbelievable.
     
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    wooley12 Active Member

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    Here's a binary question for the OP.

    Fascism.

    Good thing or Bad thing?
     
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    Fascism was designed to counter Communism.
    Proto-Communism was designed by Asians to invade western civilization.
    Some Asian nations are good anti-communist and some Asian nations are proto-communist (they practice society aspects of communism while being economically capitalist nation.
    In modern American society people will evaluate China and deem them as capitalist when In fact they still practice communism on their people's personal social lives.
    This is Proto-communism when a nation starts to use communist tactics on its host population while allowing some form of free market capitalism to take place.
    In China there is clearly a Social structure inspired by communism that instills fear into its citizens. But the low IQ American public who holds liberal centrist ideology will conclude that China has changed and is now a capitalist nation .
    I believe Fascism is a counter to Communism .
    I am not a diehard fascist but I am indeed a Socialist and believe in a Social Republican Party that can thrive in America and defeat the Neoconservative right wing think tanks that believe in giving Palestinian land to Jews will bring peace in the Middle East.
     
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    Fascism in Nazi Germany was a plan that had gotten hijacked by British secret societies into racial extermination. Fasism in Italy was never designed to kill people based off their race.
    You had brown skin Italians in the 29th Waffen Division of the SS !. Why did Hitler allow brown people into the SS?.
    Therefore Fascism in its combative form is not racist. But it is National Socialism fused with the teachings of Secret societies that created the racist elements in Germany. It was the Vrill Society that sold out to western entities and adopted racial extermination plans from other secret societies that believed Aryans were traced to Alantis and had special powers. It was the Thule Society that tried to equate Race with Non-Aryans .
    Ttherefore my final conclusion is the National Socialist were more evil then me because they had killed off Slavic , Croats, and Gypsy population which these racial groups had no intent to harm the political system of Nazi Germany. You had Gypsy's who were in the Wehrmacht get sent to death camps !. In Italian Fasism you would never see Gypsy and Jewish people get sent to death camps.
    There were many fascist Jews in Italy who got killed when Hitler took power in North Italy. So I think National Socialism is just a satanic evil dominion of nature that took place as a Masterplan to create hell on earth.
    I think Fascism in its classical sense was designed to be a good thing but got hijacked by Hitler. So Fascism now is related to racial extermination views of world because of the power and propaganda the National Socialist in Germany had used they basically designed a Fascist government that wanted Germany to be pure of only Germanic races. This I disagree with because I support a Visigothic Realm of Germany being place for all Italians Spaniards and Germans. So my version of Fascism is way less evil then Hitler's version.
     
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    Hyperfocusing is poor scholarship.
     
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    Sound like you have it all figured out with pinball machine logic. Do you have a flow chart or diagram?
     
  11. ItaliaLegion

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    Well sorry if I insulted you.
    I think that European Fascism in 1940s was evil . There I said it. I am a evil person at times but I do have a heart and if I was in some sort of high position in power as a Fascist I would not kill Jews and Gypsy people . But I would send Gypsies who are not apart of society norms like people who just beg on the streets all day for money to re_education camps to educate them on the importance of finding a job and being a working member of society. In Ukraine they have a re-education program for gypsy men who are military age . It teaches them the importance of military service and how to be apart of Ukrainian society . Leftist call these programs in Ukraine racist but I think it is a blessing . My sister married a Gypsy man who joined the Ukrainian Azov Battalion and is now a Captain in the Ukrainian Navy. Why can't all Gypsies inspire to be like him?.
     
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    Not insulted at all. My own WWII interest is in the Sicily / Italy campaign. The morality on the front lines is a part of my study. I thought I might gain insight here from you but I'm not really interested in your theories. Ciao.
     
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    Do you think American military base stationed in Sicily will be there forever?. I heard it houses the 173rd Airborne Division of United States Army.
    Does America believe that one day Fascism might happen again in Italy? .
     
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    Helpful hint...

    People will take you a bit more seriously if you appear to a least know a little about what you are saying.

    1. There is no 173rd Airborne Division, never was. They have always been a Brigade. In current nomenclature, they are the 173rd Airborne Brigade Combat Team.

    2. Vicenza is near Venice...About as far away from Sicily as you can get and still be in Italy.

    3. You are confused...the Naval Air Station Sigonella is in Sicily
     
  16. ItaliaLegion

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    Oh I didn't know that.
    I am a novice at military studies.
    But I am highly interested in learning military history from all nations including America .
    So it's a brigade. That is interesting.
    So is a Brigade bigger then a division?.
    I want to learn more about the 173rd .
    Does the 173rd operate in Ukraine?.
    I have allot of family in the Ukrainian Naval infantry and only my grandpa being from the Italian division of the Axis Germany . I did have a family member in America who married my cousin who was in the United States Army. He was in the 101st air assault,
    He past away August 28th 2008 in Germany because of his injuries from Afghanistan.
    If you want I can pm you his name.
    He once baby sit me when I was a kid . Was a very great guy .
    I my self hope when I'm done with college
    to join the The Ukrainian Naval infantry .
     
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    I was stationed at Sigonella for three years. It's a NATO base. There isn't any US Army division there. And I've graded way too many undergrad papers to be insulted by things like your posts.
     
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    Without the financial help By Krupp etc Hitler would never have made it 'big'. The National socialists were even losing the political campaign. Any so called secret occult societies would not save them. The financial help and Schacht helped them to success.
     
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    Also von Papen made it possiblefor Hitler to become Chancellor as he believed he could Control the 'clown' Hitler and persuaded Hindenburg to accept Hitler position. Without Papen Hitler would not have got power as Hitler did not accept the position of vice-chancellor.
     
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    He's gone and that is a good thing.

    Fascism is communism with different motivation. The outcome is the same.
     

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