AT guns !!!

check this out
http://www.flamesofwar.com/Article.asp?ArticleID=921

 

No mention of the 17 pdr yet :-?

It spoiled many a Tiger tank crews day

 

The German Pak40 (short for Panzerabwehrkanone 40 or Anti-Tank Gun 40) was a dedicated anti-tank gun. It fired 75mm shells and if you want to know their exact designation and weight I'll have to refer you to Tony Williams.

This gun is actually the often overlooked mainstay of all German AT killing power. After 1943 it was the main towed AT gun, while its KwK version armed the most common vehicles in the German inventory, such as the late Panzer IV and the late StuG III.

Redcoat, that's an interesting pic of the 17pdr. It doesn't appear to have the double gun shield. Do you have any specific info about it?

 

Its a 17 pdr mounted on a 25 pdr howitzer carriage,
With the arrival of the Tiger tank in North Africa, the first 100 prototype 17-pdrs anti-tank guns were quickly sent off to help counter this new threat. So great was the rush that they were sent before proper carriages had been developed, and the guns had to be mounted in the carriages of 25-pounder howitzers. These early weapons were known as 17/25-pounders and given the codename Pheasant. They first saw action in February 1943.
By all accounts even though the carriage was a stopgap it was robust and effective

 

Thanks!

I'll repeat what FNG and Hoosier said, you always learn something on here!

 

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for the naval armor squadron fans
The russian 100mm was developed as naval gun !
probably the best russian AT gun , a shade under the 88mm
it wasn't used at first for the typical russian reason that ammunition
would be non standard and harder to get !

the largest AT of WW2 was the 152mm of the beast master , an howitzer
the russian 85 mm was , like it's cousin the german 88mm , a reinvented
AA gun ,
the red army found the 85mm a bit of disapointment and choose the
122mm , a field gun, as main battle tank weapon ,
not so much penetration as blowing one head off



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A shade under the 88mm L/71, perhaps. It was superior to the Tiger's 88mm L/56 in every way.

 

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on the subject of guns , modern guns got a sleeve about two third up the
barrel , I was told it's a device to stop the barrel suffering from thermal
deformation , sounded reasonable at the time .
since there were a lot of shooting during ww2 , was the phenomena noticed
then or is it only noticeable on some large caliber tubes ?


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Modern guns have a thermal sleeve which encases the whole barrel. They are very long by the standards of most WW2 guns, so probably thermal deformation is more of a problem. Of course, modern gun systems are also far more accurate, so deformation matters more.

OTOH, it sounds as if you might be referring to the fat bulge visible on only a short part of the barrel. This is the fume extractor - it helps to clear gun gas out of the barrel so the turret isn't flooded with fumes when the breech is opened.

Tony Williams: Military gun and ammunition website and discussion forum

 

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Thanks tony , this was bugging me for ages

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