Discussion in 'Small Arms and Edged Weapons' started by zeppelin5000, Jan 11, 2018.
Hey guys, Thought I'd show the bayonet I got for my Garand
Is the blackened blade standard?
Did the carbine come with a bayonet?
Yes, that was standard for the blade. I believe the carbine could use the same bayonet.
Until c.1918, US bayonet (M1905 pattern) blades were unfinished (i.e. metallic, sort of a bright polished appearance). After that all blades were parkerized (phosphate coating). The colour of parkerizing varied and was typically either a dark grey or a gunmetal/black. The blade of the bayonet in the photos above appears to be oiled, which makes it look blacker than it actually would be. In 1943 the decision was made to reduce the 16" blade of the M1905 pattern to 10" which resulted in the M1905E1 (for M1905s that had their blades cut down) and the M1 (new production bayonets with factory 10" blades).
M1 Carbine? Initially there was no provision for a bayonet to be mounted. In 1944 a modified front barrel band was issued which included a bayonet lug. This modified front band ("Type 3") was fitted some late war production guns in the factory, and later retrofitted to most M1 Carbines during postwar refurbishment. M1 Carbines with the Type 3 band saw some service in 1945 (mostly in the Pacific) but the Type 3 band was primarily a post-war/Korea feature. There were several other modifications made to the M1 Carbine at the same time, including changing the safety from a push-button to a rotary switch, and a more precise rear sight which was adjustable for windage.
The bayonet is not the same as the M1 Garand. The M1 Carbine used a M4 bayonet (patterned after the M3 fighting/utility knife). This entered service in 1944. The M4 makes an excellent utility knife. Well balanced and compact. The postwar 1953 pattern of M1 Garand bayonet (M5) was patterned after the M4, as was the M6 designed for the M14 and the M7 designed for the M16.
Nice American Fork and Hoe bayonet. Rich A. in Pa.
M-4 ans M-5 bayonets. Rich A. in Pa.
Thanks. I have a bunch of M-1 bayonets and none have a crossguard number like yours. One has marks from when it was shortened. Rich A. in Pa.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if those numbers were normal or not...
Here are some of my bayonets with other marks. No number on the crossguard.A SA 1918 cut down UFH overstamp of serial number,AFH like yours but no number,Wilde Tool UFH marked,AFH UFH marked. Rich A. in Pa.
It's probably an armory stamp. I've seen similar markings on certain equipment I was issued. Some units marked unit equipment, some didn't, don't know why, just know they did.
I do not know. Why would they number the bayonet? It must have been used by another country. Of the 6 cut down type I have none have any numbers on the crossguard.I have to look at my uncut bayonets. The UFH is Union Fork and Hoe that did the modifying. Rich A. in Pa
From some quick research, I think the bayonet may have been Greek used.