BEF captured at Dunkirk...

LJAd: You are entitled to your opinions but a lot of your posts seem to just be refuting the previous ones.
Why do you say

It weakens your argument just to "Yah boo" a poster, the rest of us left that behind in the school playground. Refute the figure with facts.
We can all access documentary evidence for how many were evacuated from France, and obviously much of their equipment was left. However, a lot was of WW1 vintage, so a necessary restock was actually an advantage.
Facts about Dunkirk: World War II, as discussed in Britannica Compton's Encyclopedia World War II: Dunkirk evacuation; Italy enters war: -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
I would be interested in your views if they were better expressed.

If 300,000 troops could travel from France to England, why couldn't Sealion have also transported a similar number? So close in time, similar conditions would apply.

 

Well the troop being evacuated were doing so without much of their equipment and didn't have to fight when they got there. They were also being delivered to port facilities so they could be off loaded fairly quickly. Furthermore the RN pretty much contolled the seas. This was good for the British evacuation and would have been very bad for the barges that would have transported most of the German troops. Furthermore the Germans didn't have any significant shore batteries to use against the British ships the same cannot be siad for the German vessels that would have been used in Sea Lion. That's not even considering the impact of planning and logistics. It doesn't take much of either to move troops back to their home country. It takes a lot to launch a successful opposed invasion.

 

Well ,the figure of 338000 is wrong :it is the figure of all troops evacuated at Dunkirk (British + French,.....)
From Axis History Forum :French amphibious capabilities at sea(reference for the figures is :Roskill 'the war at sea :1939-1945 P 239)
evacuated from Dunkirk
by 26 may :British :26402
during the evacuation :British :198315
thers:141445 of whom 123095 French
evacuated during operations Cycle and Arial:
British :144171
French:18246
Poles :24352
Czechs:4938
Belgians:163
Some 10000 military and civilians went to Britain via Gibraltar .
The figure of 338000 is a typo and gratuitous cited by a lot of authors,who did not think,because it was very unlikely :the strength of the BEF was some 400000,combat losses some 80000,the evacuated from Cycle and Arial:144171 and then 338000 evacuated during Dynamo ?
But,of course,the figure of 338000 will reappear every time .

 

and,about Sealion(although the mod.will not like it,because it is of topic),the reasons why Sealion was impossible :
1) the Germans needed air superiority over South-East England
2) Bomber Command had to be eliminated
3)the Germans needed transport ships for their troops
4) the Germans needed transport ships for tanks,artillery,horses,....
5)the Germans needed to capture undestroyed harbours ,unless you assume that artillery,horses,tanks,... could be unloaded on the coast
6)the Germans needed a navy to protect the transportships
7)the Germans needed several weeks with good weather,and this was impossible in september
If one of these conditions fell away,Sealion was impossible.
NOT ONE of these conditions could be realised.
Thus :Sealion was impossible,and,that had nothing to do with an evacuation from Dunkirk .

 

Something I posted earlier.

The simple fact is that the Germans didn't have the capability, experience, or the know how to launch any type of seaborne invasion, and any attempt across channel would simply bring the British Navy and the RAF swooping down on the lowly little German Navy, and although the Luftwaffe would try they could not hit all of the vessels in the sea.

The other reason why the British were able to evacuate so many men so quickly, was they were not facing any opposition, they were simply dropping off at England and picking them up at France, and the only opposition was perhaps a wandering E boat or something similar or the Luftwaffe over the Evacuation cite.

 

How did Poles get in Dunkirk?

 

Here's the wiki answer:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Army_in_France_(1939–1940)

 

They weren't at Dunkirk.
They were evacuated from other French ports outside the pocket, along with around 220,000 other British troops.

If the Dunkirk pocket had been captured by the Germans without the RN being able to rescue any British troops, it would have led to the loss of around 5 Division's, the rest of the BEF escaped from ports further to the west that were not surrounded by German forces