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British Phoney War football cup

Discussion in 'Trench Art' started by Skipper, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Bought yesterday at a local flea market.!

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    This is a home made football cup with B.E.F. markings (from 1939 or early 1940 I presume) . It is a well known fact that during the phoney war British and French soldiers played football , but it's the first time I find a trench art made cup for such a game. Games went from small groups of soldiers playing together to official organised matches with officers and local authorities attending . Follow the links and see the effect of fottball on the morale of Britsh (and other nations) troops.


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    http://spartacus-educational.com/2WWfootball.htm

    http://www.iwm.org.uk/history/10-facts-about-football-in-the-second-world-war


    http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/205195308
     
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    Wow! Any markings who won the cup? ;)
     
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    Despite loathing football, I think that's rather brilliant.
    How big is it, Skip?
    Definitely not WW1?
     
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    WW1 you think? Were the British already named B.E.F then? WW1 would be just as good if not better . No further markings otherwise, It's rahter unique to say the least. Oh, yes the height is about 45 cm .
     
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    I really couldn't say, but the BEF was a thing in both wars.
     
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    Thanks for the head up Adam

    I've seen mentions of a inter battalion/regiment cup in quite a few BEF war diaries from 39/40. I've got a feeling it was an Irish infantry battalion or a Guards battalion that one it. I'll see if I can pin point when it was - Possible March, April time.

    Just to make me really jealous how much did you pay for it?
     
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    Should I? Everytime I mention prices Martin spills his coffee, It cost me only 30 euros.
     
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    Skip, a 1940-obsessed friend sees no reason to automatically associate it with football. Could be a variety of sports, or even, speculatively "part of the Padres kit".
    He's got a feeling it might be first war too, though I'm doubting we'd ever quite get to the bottom of dating.
    Unless... There's some identifiable munition used in it's construction.

    Whatever... I really rather like it.
    Wonder if the WW2 BEF might be more likely to have left such a thing behind, given their somewhat rushed departure.
     
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    He could be right, though a calice would most likely have a cross. It's quite a mystery. Left behind, given to a local, won by a French team , found in a ditch after the attack of a convoy, anything is possible. It's a cool item indeed.
     

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