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  1. Carronade

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    Might engine production have been factor? How difficult would it be to switch a factory from building Allisons to Merlins? Or for a plant or workforce used to building inline engines to turn to radials?

    Total production cost was also a consideration; this is from a discussion a few years back:

    P-38 $97,147
    P-47 $85,578
    P-51 $51,572
    P-40 $44,892
    P-39 $42,384
     
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    Well from what I've recently read about the P-40, when the US entered the war it was the most plentiful fighter aircraft in the USAAF inventory. It was easy and cheap to make, easily maintained in the field and most importantly it was already in large scale production at the time when lots of everything was needed. Other aircraft were being added to the production lines at the time like you suggested, the P-38s, P-47s for example, but how they would contribute to the war effort in terms of effective use was yet to be learned. Remember, the P-51s US built Allison engines did not operate as desired at altitudes above 15,000 feet where much air combat in Europe was being conducted. It wasn't until the British began putting the Merlin/Rolls Royce engines in the P-51s, and later the US started putting Packard engines into the P-51Ds in mid 1943 or so that the Mustang became the air supremacy fighter that we all know and love. The P-40 (my all time fav US warbird) was discontinued in production in 1944, with about 12,000 built. The P-39 was also hampered by the lack of desired performance at higher altitudes, but functioned well enough at medium and lower heights which made it more valuable as a ground attack aircraft than a first line fighter. It was discontinued in 1944 also, with about 9,500 airframes built. The Rooskies loved them. The P-39s and P-40s were there early on when we needed them.

    Hope this clears things up a bit. I must admit that I was intrigued by your question and had the look into myself after thinking about it. Now we must wait patiently until Takao comes in and sets us all straight.
     
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    "[1600 x 1069] Iowa class battleship firing her 16"/50 caliber Mark 7 guns - note the shell exiting the barrel."
     
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    "January 14, 1941. T-150 (seen here) and T-220, both initial attempts to up-gun and up-armor the KV with an eye towards a "KV-3", enter testing. Both would be quickly outrun by the 107 mm KV-3 project, with one vehicle each ending up with frontline troops."
     
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    "Royal Air Force Typhoon inbound [3047x1714]"
     
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    "Kawanishi N1K2-Ja Shiden (Violet Lightning) Kai (Modified) "George" at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center. This is one of four surviving examples left in existence. It was captured in Japan in 1945, and restored by the Champlin Fighter Museum in Mesa, AZ, while on loan from the Smithsonian. (1991-1994)"
     
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    "50 Years Ago Today [January 15, 1971] Aerial view of the USS Ticonderoga (CVS-14) aircraft carrier underway in the Pacific. [1120 x 840]"
     
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    So sorry Opana! Just realized you had a b-day!kph
     
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    This was the first YB-29 produced, it's designation was changed to XB-39 when the original engines were swapped out to test the Allisons.
     
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    "Why so nosey?"
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    "F6F-3 Hellcat of VF-1 hangs by the barrier cables in the elevator well of Escort Carrier USS Barnes, Nov 1943 United States National Archives.
     
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    (I like the guy just below the engine nacelle, hand up to try and deflect that prop.)
     
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    "The Lion class battleship, as drawn by Oscar Parkes. Two ships were laid down in 1939 but the outbreak of war meant they were never completed [3834 x 1504]."
     
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    "Starboard broadside view of the French cruiser La Marseillaise. [1024x630]"
     
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    "Captain Cyril Bernard Coenen of the 370th FG, 402nd FS, with his P-38 nicknamed 'Peg O' My Heart II', named after his wife Peggy. The image most likely taken at ALG Cardonville A.3 aerodrome, in July 1944."
     
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    Least cool pix.

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    "5"/38 twin gun mount of the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS Franklin (CV-13) burning, as her crew tried to control fires on 19 March 1945. The carrier had been hit by a Japanese air attack while operating off the coast of Japan (4784x3283)."
     
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    "An experimental British Vickers-Carden-Loyd light tank fitted with twin .50 calibre Vickers machine guns for AA use. (790 x 485)"
     
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    "[1500x 1070] Battleship gun in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, 1940s."
     
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    "The B-29 that crashed before it left the factory 44-61536."
     
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