Damned! It's oficial! 4 more years!

May God helps us all…

 

He already has...........the traitor is gone.

what do you care Fried you want Hillary in 2008 anyway and it would of been tough for her to get in with the two lawyer boyz trying to run for a second term. next stop 2008 for Hillary and slick Willie as leader of the UN

yee haw folks...

 

That's exactly my consolation: Bill in the UN and Hill at the White House in 2008.

The question is: can the world and the US take another 4-years (even harsher) of Cheney-Bush medicine? There's a very high risk of an overdose…

Another good thing is that I'll have another four years to tease this ignorant Texan and play the forums' Michael Moore.

 

oh rats I thought the Bush thing was over..........bah.........

well Bush/Cheney are there in the house for a reason as if Kerry/Edwards would have been. It will be an intersting 4 yrs no doubt. Hopeful no 9/11 type incidents but we have chatted about this at length already. I also have my thoughts whether or not Bush/Cheney will make it literally this upcoming term......there is a stink in the air

let's not rule out the loser bin Laden and his slimes for a surprise, although we are getting closer to poppin this fool

time for a glas of wein

 

Just hope there are indeed no September nor March 11th's anywhere in the world in the next 4-years, that Osama gets caught and that the US troops in Iraq finish the work they've started in the best and most effective possible way (and this is that the end doesn't justify the means).

Prosit, Erich! (German, French, Spanich or Italian wine? Or even from California… I bought a box of very good Californian wine last week.)

 

Yea, let's have a three way match up in 08....Hillary, McCain, Schwartzenegger.....it'll be better than WWE wrestling!

 

Hey TA, don't forget the main man, JESSIE VENTURA

 

Indeed,

at one point it seemed the whole country ( the US ) wanted to have a change but it seems it was not really so in the end. There was also talk that "anyone who would stand up against George W would win.."

What did Kerry do wrong or did not do well enough?

 

Alot of people were turned off by Kerry's 'big promises' like free health care for everyone or that the US would be free from terrorism if elected. That crack about Cheney's daughter[lesbian]at the debate didn't help either.

 

I do feel sorry for you all but not sure whether Kerry would have been much better. If Bush can change his attitude then maybe things will improve in terms of world opinion for america but otherwise you go with who you choose.

Well it lookslike it is Britain's turn next. So hopefully no more Blair. I am an eternal optimist

 

Well, what are you going to do - when Diebold supplies the voiting machines ... you get results (guaranteed results! Hey - but at least Ashcroft's going to be phased out. Me, I didn't vote - don't all yell at once - I couldn't justify voting for someone because he wasn't as "bad" as Bush.

FramerT - agreed - Kerry's numbers didn't add up. The problem, I hope you all can agree with this - was that the Dems put up someone they were only lukewarm about - he never had the grip of his base - and ignored the South too much (see electoral map). And for undecideds - think American! "We don't like to change our horses in the middle of a race." Whatever the hell that means. Hey WHAT HAPPENED TO THE YOUTH VOTE? All that MTV crap, Farenheit 911 - Michael Moore - where are you? - wow what a failure! But I guess he sleeps ok - on his mountain of cash.

Well, Fried at least one positive thing - it opens the door for everyone's favorite carpet bagger here in NY to make a run at it - and you all thought that the Bush/Kerry election was dirty - you say the name Hillary and Republicans start to foam at the mouth! It's worth having her run just for the drama. For me - McCAIN IN 2008!

 

It would have been better for the Poodle had Dubya lost.

 

You mean it is better for
???

Anyway...Barney doesn't seem to think so....

 

Here's the little fella, on the right ; -

http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1038512,00.html

 

Schwarzenegger can't be president, can he? Am I wrong or one needs to be American-born or just citizen to be president?

Because if Arnold becomes President, then I'll manage to perform an opera in front of him and blow myself with a bomb…

We very well know what happens when Austrians go abroad to rule foreign countries…

 

You are correct, Arnold can not be President. One must be born in the U.S. to be President.

Later

 

Quote; "What happened to Michael Moore and the youth vote"? Yeeeahh! Being that Moore is an expert on running a country maybe he'll run in 2008. America's youth... TV watching, obese,un-informed,body piercing rap music lovers, voting for the President of the U.S.? I'd bet money that 80% of the youth didn't even know Kerry's running mate.Unless they saw it on MTV.

 

What went wrong with Kerry?

First let's see how the US voted:

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• Women: 52% - 47%</font>
• Men: 55% - 44%</font>
• Hispanics: 56% - 41%</font>
• Black: 90% - 10%</font>
• Young: 54% - 44%</font>
• Catholics: 52% - 48%</font>

What subjects decided the election? (No one could have imagined that!)

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• Moral values: 22%</font>
• Economics: 19%</font>
• Terrorism: 19%</font>
• War in Iraq: 15%</font>

After seeing this it's not so difficult to see why senator Kerry lost.

Bush got the support from whites, males, people with high-incomes, married couples and religiously practicant groups —specially evangelical christians.

Kerry got the support from women, ethnic minorities, independent policised youth and moderates.

Whilst Kerry focused his campaign in the economic, Bush focused more on anti-terrorism and moral values (which didn't help Kerry much, since he has a more tolerant view towards abortion, gay marriage and embrio investigation).

[source: Reforma, "International", Mexico City November 4th 2004, pp. 2A.]

 

Dont get mixed up with saying that moderates went Kerry, our country is so polarized that their arent many moderates. Also, no true 'moderate' could vote Kerry, as he is soooo farrrr left its not funny.

Bush got the support from whites, males, people with high-incomes, married couples and religiously practicant groups —specially evangelical christians.

^^^

So basically Bush got the bulk of his support from the people that bear the large bulk of the taxes, and those who seek to like a moral life?

Problem?

 

I assume you meant to say 'like what they think of as a moral life', I object to the implication that those of us who aren't religious are therefore immoral, I think you will find many atheists put much more rational consideration into their ethical viewpoint than many christians on the basis that they don't have them handed to them on the plate.