accident as it probably would of mentioned a Fliegertod ? heres a interesting one, maybe on the Orion ? aux cruiser member
Not soldiers but civilians who died helping the British to liberate Wevelgem (indeed the town where I live in.) 4 young men:
And two brothers who died withing a few months..... They both still lived with their parents. One was in a Panzer regiment and the other a Grenadier. The "Terror angriff" on May 20th could be the night bombing of Orleans when a train with German soldiers going on leave was caugt in in bombing and passed through a station at the very moment a "Cookie" was dropped on an ammno train on another track. I don't have the list of German casualties, but details al seem to fit. 514 Squadron took part of the bombing of LE MANS which was a neighbour target with Tours. One of the Lancs lost was ME775 from 166 (Target Orleans) was lost and crashed west of Paris. 514 lost two Lanc (one in England) The second brother died while fighting on the East front.
very very interesting Skipper that you may have tied into one casualty from the RAF bombing mission - good research. well I found an interesting card in my data files with a little background history, more help from member Stevin on that one as well. will pull it up later
Yes I sometimes manage to find a link. Unfortunately these are only "possibilities" until I have a casualty list which would turn this in evidence, but the leads are serious. I will keep on looking in my files for more.
heres a chap I know a bit about Raimund Prettner, radio operator and his pilot Ofw. Willi Schmidt KIA plus 3 other crew members. Fw 200 Kondor of 9./KG 40 shot down at 1630 hrs at Verly near Bourges by a Mossie II of 418th squadron Flt. Lt. C.C. Sherf Fg. Ofrf. E.A. Brown R. Prettner is buried at Daneux, France. N.E. of Lyon, I have his gavesite marked even thansk to Stevin
Oh my this is almost my back yard!!! Please tell me more about this Condor crash. Was it an accident? You are the best Old Sage!
Ok, thanks ! My enthousiasm made me overread the fact that it was a Mossie. I have some info about this Geschwader being temporarery assigned to Bourges (Avord) while the rest was still further south. Do you know the Mosquito's Operation/Crew?
Erich could there be a spelling error in your village name? I checked my atlas and there is no Verly near Bourges (there is only in the Ardennes! ) . However there is place called Vailly right next to Avord. You may be talking about this place.
the mis-spelling could of been from WASt and or the Volksbund. The Mossie crews names and ranks are in that post skipper..............and yes I would like information if you can post on KG 40's operations in Bourges as I am trying to collect as much as possible on KG 40, several books of note are good but it is great to have other info obviously.......... got another card coming for show.
well I have a couple of the rare KM Schnellbooten cards here is one that I just purchased today even -with the firms trademark across the front. Interesting to research the guys and find out just which S-boot they served on if possible, this gent served on S - 198
Erich I must be overworked. For a while I thought the crew mentionned was German (Brown could have ben brown Braun) my records of KG40 are incomplete for 1944, but I have a Kondor of the 8th Staffel shot down on February 5th. This Kondor was at the wrong place at the wrong moment. It was flying to Cognac to pick up a load of bombs when it was sighted by P-38s from the 20FG. These were escorting bombers targeting the Bourges Avord Airfield. The opportunity was too big and some of the p-38s left the escort for a while to get some target practise on this FW 200 C-4 (probably while it was taking off). I don't know the names of the crews. If you are interested in sharing more Kondor losses send me a PM , I have a few other around my "back yard" .
yes I am but lets continue with the cards here on this thread ......... after thought, do you have the P-38 encounter report(s) ?
I am afraid not. I know they exist because they once were mentionned on another forum which address I don't remember. If I have time I'll come back with another pic or two of a death card.
give me a couple of days Skipper and I may have it to attach here on start on another thread, in fact that is an absolute great idea......... ah the simple mind. why don't you start one up about LW lost and found Kondors in France or ? I am quite interested in FAGr 5 at it's base on your eastern coast line 43-44 with the Ju 290A. Of course anyone would be welcome to discuss and post their findings and research... another card coming up soon. E
last one for the day as I have to run off for another bike ride this time in the dank fog.... 34F though sad in respect for these men it is always interesting to search and see what they were involved with, unit wise and where they may have gone, engagements, other personell in a long range recee unit but which one ? the Baltic no less, shot down by Soviet fighters or ship AA ?
