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Discussion in 'Weapons & Technology in WWII' started by JCFalkenbergIII, Dec 5, 2008.

  1. JCFalkenbergIII

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    What a waste :eek:. But I guess with the output of the US it was just a small drop in the bucket. Do you know what eventually happened to it all?
     
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    One of the 250 armored bulldozer variant of Cruiser Mk VII Centaur tank
     

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    armored bulldozers are a good idea but enemies could shoot through the window.:mp44kickback: :pzp:
     
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    There is no window. But an armored slit. And as far as I have read that even happening was very rare.
     
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    a really good sniper would do any armored dozer pilot in dead
     
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    Sniper generally don't just shot at anything that moves, they are there to take out key personal such as officers, not just your everyday soldier. Why would be waste a bullet on the dozer's driver unless the dozer was trying to run over one of your field guns, but then why is the dozer that close to the combat, since after all that is what the sherman dozer is for.
     
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    no
     
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    Good points there my Friend :). How often were they subjected to small arms fire? IIRC the Armor was more for protection against shrapnel and fragments.
     
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    Exactly matey, especially with a dozer like that. I am expecting that kind of dozer would be one that was stationed at an airfield or somewhere else behind the lines, and the armour would be protection from like you said fragments and things like that from planes and maybe long range artillery.
     
  10. T. A. Gardner

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    I know in the Pacific the CB's were expected to start construction on runways and other infrastructure as soon as the ground was captured. In many cases this meant that equipment operators were building things like roads and airfields under fire as the "front line" was as little as a few hundred yards from where they were working.
     
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    well in that case what if a dozer per say got hit by artillery shell or a anti tank rocket then what would happen to that armored dozer:bazookafire::armcar:
     
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    What would happen to a Tiger tank if it was hit by an artillery shell or anti-tank rocket??



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    It depends on the size of the shell and where it hits, a Tiger 1 has 25mm thick roof plate so and air burst would probably do little damage, Sometimes periscopes might be damaged and fragments might get through air vents into the engine compartment and damage the motor or radiators, but this is fairly rare.

    A direct hit by explosive shells may cause damaged to hatches making them impossible to open. Shell above 105mm such as 155mm howitzer 5.5inch will cause some damage to even to a 25mm plate like bending and poping welds etc. Same applies to hits on the tracks and wheels anything 105mm and larger will damage the trackwork by a direct hit, 155mm will damage the suspension by a near miss closer than 2meters. and within 2metres of the front of the tank may cause the floor plates to buckle and seems to pop.

    The bit you really want to know, If a 155mm M1 gun or a Birtish 5.5 gun fires directly at a tank like a Tiger an explosive round will cause a great deal of damage by shock to the interior irrespective of where it hits on the hull and armour. To kill the tank fire a shell without the fuse (transport plug in place) the 80lb and 100lb shells of 5.5in and 95lb shell of an M1 gun will break up a tank even as large as a Tiger. The RA parcticed firing 5.5in guns in "anti-tank" mode against such an eventuality makes the idea of moving a Pak 40 simple by comparison.

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    Except for air burst most armour dozers were damaged by artillery as most only have light armour half inch or so Tank dozers were sometimes loaded with earth and elevated to give protection against panzerfaust in WW2. Dozer blades both on an armoured dozer and tanks dozers would give stand off protection to the vehicle.

    Addition: Most British extemporized dozers used in NWE were vulnerable to air burst as they had open roofed driving compartments.

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    A US 155 M1 gun or British 5.5" firing heavy wall HE rounds at anything under 1000 yards will demolish a Tiger. The same goes for the Soviet 152mm. These guns fire heavy wall HE rounds that weigh on the order of 100 lbs. The Soviet and US gun also have an APHE round available (although the not often issued) that weigh over 100 lbs.
     
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    Back to the original subject LOL. Another good example of what the US had as opposed to what the Germans had.

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    The bottom photo looks alot like the rock and gravel plant the US had operating on Ohama beach on D+3.
     
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    Good eye there T.A. !:D That is what it is .
     
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    I think I have some other similar photos. Ill have to check my files.
     

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