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Discussion in 'WWII Forums News' started by Slipdigit, Nov 27, 2010.

  1. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    Dear Rogues,

    This thread is to share a growing concern about excessive cutting & pasting by the membership. We have been contacted by many Rogues about this and the OKF team is concerned about massive copying and pasting on this forum and wish to limit it's use without inhibiting good, qualified posts.

    Pastings are welcome, provided they are made occasionally, for instance, to help another member. We have no concerns about informative links with attached pertinent comments. When these comments are also pasted and no personnel elaboration is added, except a few monosyllabic words, then the line is crossed.

    We kindly ask those who are involved with this to respect other members. These members may not wish to have their posts diluted among many pasted ones.

    Some of you may receive a personal reminder in your pm box. If you don't receive such a message, don't worry about this thread. If you do, there is no need to worry, either. We are aware that you are willing to help, but we kindly expect you to comply to the forum rules and change your habits.

    This post was made under Slipdigit's name, but is the work and concern of all moderators.


    Best Regards,


    The OKF
     
  2. texson66

    texson66 Ace

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  3. A-58

    A-58 Cool Dude

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    Well, looks like there's no need to learn how to cut and paste now. Is there a special place to go to learn that stuff?
     
  4. theblackalchemist

    theblackalchemist Member

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    And for those who Cut and Paste within the limits of fair usage, i'd suggest you use the handy quote function

    eg

    [noparse]
    [/noparse]


    gives
    And...

    [noparse]
    [/noparse]


    gives

    Followed by a link where you found the post will be useful :)

    And as Slip rightly said, put in your point also, explaining why you think the original poster is being justified / not justified than the person quoted.

    You must not publish content which is copyrighted, as it will most prolly get deleted...(and for the record, all the content posted is copyrighted unless expressly mentioned so -- see the links below)
    Read more about copyright here:

    Copyright Laws And FAQ

    Fair usage according to US Copyright Office and Wikipedia

    Copyright myths

    You might also want to visit Creative commons


    Regards,
    TBA
     
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  5. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    I confirm my full support on the matter.
     
  6. Kai-Petri

    Kai-Petri Kenraali

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    100% agreed!
     
  7. GRW

    GRW Pillboxologist WW2|ORG Editor

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    Same here.
     
  8. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    In PHP you can put a link back to the source in the
     
  9. theblackalchemist

    theblackalchemist Member

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    Yes, as a amatter of fact you can, just do this

    [noparse] [/noparse]

    eg.
    [noparse]
    [/noparse]


    gives..

    Be sure that the post is on the same thread, and that you get the correct post id.

    (unless i am mistaken) I dont think it is possible for external links as you cant nest the codes..eg you cant do [noparse]
    [/noparse]
    as i think the quote function regards its input parameters as strings and not codes, hence what ever you put after the = sign, it will appear as it is...
    But for external links.. just use the handy [noparse] name[/noparse] tags..


    Regards,
    TBA
     
  10. OpanaPointer

    OpanaPointer I Point at Opana Staff Member Patron   WW2|ORG Editor

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    That only works on 'internal' links, however?
     
  11. theblackalchemist

    theblackalchemist Member

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    yeah, internal in the same thread... for eg you cant link a post in a different thread, as after the ";" the no. which you put in, vB scans the same thread only, and not other thread to find a matching post ID. hence the best method to link is just give the name of the person who wrote it, and supply a hard link at the end.

    the method which i told you about is purely cosmetic as no links appear, instead they take the form of a nice little graphic [​IMG] :)

    EDIT: IF i am right, you can use the [noparse][thread][/noparse] tags to link different threads..

    Regards,
    TBA
     
  12. AndyPants

    AndyPants Ace

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    This sounds good to me, I support it too
     
  13. LRusso216

    LRusso216 Graybeard Staff Member Patron  

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    This has my full support, also.
     
  14. syscom3

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    Can someone post an example of a thread that had used to much "cut and paste"? I am honestly admitting that I have no clue on what you are talking about besides the part about the copyright and quotations.
     
  15. LJAd

    LJAd Well-Known Member

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    Neither do I :It's all Chinese for me .
     
  16. theblackalchemist

    theblackalchemist Member

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    Cant give you an example, though from what i understand, users are copy pasting answers to questions from other user's posts, without giving and hence effectively stealing the credit deserved for the answer...

    it may / not be only posts, but also inet sites etc.. i hope i am clear.

    Regards,
    TBA
     
  17. formerjughead

    formerjughead The Cooler King

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    For me cut and pasting falls into three categories:

    1. When referring to as source material in support of a thesis or argument.
    Much the same as you would in a "Works Cited" portion of an essay or research paper. Often the passage in reference is "quoted" to provide context of the source material.

    2. Pasting other's works and passing them as your own without credit to author or source.
    This is plagerism.

    3. Current Eventing/Serial Posting
    This is the most apprehensible of the cutting and pasting. The poster will merely paste the link to a news article without context. This is what I believe to be the root cause of the recent virus infestations. More often than not the original poster will post the same article, from a different source, which has already been posted.

    The 1st example, for me, is the only acceptable form of "Cut and Paste" 2 & 3 are "Cut and Post" with very little thought given to source.

    While we all should strive for example 1 there are many, including "Trustees", who are guilty of examples 2 & 3.

    Hope that helps
     
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  18. Slipdigit

    Slipdigit Good Ol' Boy Staff Member WW2|ORG Editor

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    See my explanatory private message to you.
     
  19. Skipper

    Skipper Kommodore

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    Hahaha , good to know you grant me the first three letters of the alphabet. It could have been worse :D
     
  20. C.Evans

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    Though Ive been tought it, you dont have to worry about that pasting stuff from me ;-00
     

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