Fake koppelschösser thread. Learn how to spot them!

This is the new thread to post examples of fakes so our members won't fall for them.


I thought that it would be nice to share our expertise on the matter to quench this curse.

Please make sure post sharp pics with sources and don't hesitate to mention the details you found.

This is not a thread for unhappy buyers , so please refrain from mentioning that such ans such guy sold you this fake etc...

Use this thread as a preventive vaccine :ambulance: .

 

1) Fake Heer S.H. u. Co 40 buckle


This one appears to be hard to spot as a fake, but

-the maker deliberately made a "tell tale" bald spot at the top right hand corner.
-there is also a smaller bald sport on the top left hand corner .
-the size is a millimeter smaller than a real one, so just put a real one next to it and compare.
-the original ones are stamped , this fake is cast and has small cast marks at the back .
-all fakes are marked 40 (1940)
-by typing the maker on the internet you will find many sites who sell the same looking buckle with the ame defects at the same spot....

Caution : there are real buckles from this maker too , including from 1940.


The fake buckle!






http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/heer-buckles/s-h-u-co-40-a-5181/

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/Forums/showthread.php?p=5901971




Hope this helps as a start. ( Sorry if I ruined your day by making you realize you onw a fake. )

 

Thanks Lou I was going to do this , but you beat me on it. I hope this thread will become a good data base.

Today's contribution is a link to A useful German site which specializes in buckles from 1870 to 1945, so yo ucan compare yours with almost every issued Koppelschloss.

http://www.das-koppelschloss.de/startseite1.htm

http://www.das-koppelschloss.de/startseite1.htm



This is fantasy Condor buckle.....

 

One more for our data base : these are some famous politzei fakes made in eastern Europe












NOTE THE RZM M34/2 CODE : this is an absolute fantasy code that is very often used on all types of fakes (they use the same base to cast them )


http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/polizei-buckles/fake-police-buckles-262925/

 

A famous fake Luftwaffe buckle. They are sometimes offered on genuine belts and even aged and or denazified to make everything plausible. All fake and


markings to memorize are JFS , Dr F & Co , RZM M34/72 ,MSS 40 , A a&s, R s&s . (this does not mean these markings do not exist on real ones, but seeing them , should make one double cautious.

 

Maybe. This is meant as a permanent data base. I expect members to check for their own stuff from time to time and if they sport a fake to post a picture of it here , so that in time we might get a valuable database. Those who own buckles , know what it means in German and those who are googling for fakes might end here with the different keys words. It will not draw thousands of members here, but if I can help only one person and prevent him from buying a pigeon buckle then the mission will be accomplished.

 

Another classic one :

this Luftwaffe one will be spotted easily



http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/luftwaffe-buckles/luftwaffe-buckle-authentic-maker-id-181123/

 

A pigeon fake "fashion" that can be seen on Ebay. It's a fake aluminium Luftwaffe version with the dots missing outside the oval (this only existed on iron models) . To make it more realistic it was turned into an FFI trophy......