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  1. CAC

    CAC Ace of Spades

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    Yeah I've read this too...was linked to the saucer program...I've seen supposed footage too. The story was they went to Mars initially to simply test the saucer...there's also ' footage' of something slithering along the ground in one peice...!
     
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    Yeah, given that Viking wasn't a rover....
     
  3. Poppy

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    Pretty sure I heard that coast to coast episode. Good radio is better than good TV. Noory just can't seem to bring it like Art did.
     
  4. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/orion-nasas-big-mission-prepares-blast-off/story?id=27234011

    Orion will lift off on a United Launch Alliance Delta IV Heavy rocket on its inaugural test flight to space on the uncrewed Exploration Flight Test-1 (EFT-1) mission at 7:05 a.m. EST on December 4, 2014, from Space Launch Complex 37 (SLC-37) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida.
    The two-orbit, four and a half hour Orion EFT-1 flight around Earth will lift the Orion spacecraft and its attached second stage to an orbital altitude of 3,600 miles, about 15 times higher than the International Space Station (ISS) – and farther than any human spacecraft has journeyed in 40 years.
     
  5. lwd

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    Wasn't there an earlier "Orion" that was to be powered by atomic or nuclear bombs? Litterally small bombs detonating behind it repeatedly?
     
  6. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Not sure of nuclear but years ago, (early 1970's) I was told Plasma, which I have recently seen in the News.
     
  7. Poppy

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    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Set your DVR's !

    http://www.nasa.gov/content/orion-poised-for-first-trip-to-space/#.VH47WMme7IU

    NASA's Orion program has arrived at a fulcrum point that will tell its designers and builders how it stacks up technically. It also will show that NASA is ready to take the next step on its journey into deep space – and ultimately to Mars.
    So even though Orion is poised for a mere 4 1/2-hour, two-orbit mission without anyone on board, the cone-shaped craft needs to perform its roster of tasks well, including an all-important descent through Earth's atmosphere and splashdown.
    "Really, we're going to test the riskiest parts of the mission," Geyer said. "Ascent, entry and things like fairing separations, Launch Abort System jettison, the parachutes plus the navigation and guidance – all those things are going to be tested. Plus we’ll fly into deep space and test the radiation effects on those systems."
    The flight test begins at Space Launch Complex 37 at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. A 2-hour, 39-minute launch window opens at 7:05 a.m. EST so the launch and recovery of the spacecraft after splashdown can both take place in daylight. Orion will lift off on the strength of a United Launch Alliance Delta IV Heavy, currently the largest rocket in America's inventory. The three RS-68 engines will produce about two million pounds of thrust at liftoff, enough to push the 1.63 million pounds of spacecraft, rocket and cryogenic fuel straight up off the launch pad and into orbit.
    The boosters on either side of the rocket will fall away about four minutes into the ascent. The center booster with the second stage and Orion on top continues on for about 90 seconds more before its fuel is burned up and it separates to fall back to Earth. From there the second stage will lift Orion while the structural support fairings around the simulated service module fall away, followed closely by the launch abort system.
    At 17 minutes, 39 seconds following liftoff, the Orion and second stage will be in an initial orbit of 115 miles by 552 miles. The second stage will ignite again two hours into the flight to send Orion through the Van Allen radiation belts and to a peak altitude of 3,609 miles, some 15 times higher than the space station. This is going to be a key point in the test flight as instruments inside Orion record the radiation doses inside the cabin – critical data for mission planners considering the best way to safely send astronauts into deep space in the future. Orion's cameras will be turned off during its passes through the belts to protect them.
    Three hours, 23 minutes into flight, the Orion crew module will fly on its own following separation from its service module and the Delta IV Heavy second stage. The spacecraft will be aimed at Earth's atmosphere and it will be up to Orion's onboard computers to set the spacecraft in the right position so its base heat shield can bear the brunt of the intense reentry heat.
    Hitting the atmosphere at 20,000 mph four hours and 13 minutes after launch, Orion will encounter about 80 percent of the heat it would endure during a return from lunar orbit with astronauts aboard. Ground controllers will lose contact with Orion for 2 1/2 minutes during reentry when the spacecraft is surrounded by plasma. They should regain communications with the craft just before the forward bay cover is jettisoned in a process that will begin the parachute deployment. After about four hours, 23 minutes, Orion will be bobbing in the Pacific Ocean off the coast of Baja California as recovery forces move in.
    Teams from NASA's Ground Systems Development and Operations Program based at Kennedy will work with U.S. Navy and Lockheed Martin personnel to bring the spacecraft into the well deck of the USS Anchorage, an amphibious ship with a protective enclosure that will allow Orion to basically float onboard without having to be lifted by a crane. A second ship, the USNS Salvor, also will be on hand as a backup.
     
  9. Biak

    Biak Boy from Illinois Staff Member

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    Well maybe tomorrow. Launch scrubbed this morning. Window for tomorrow starts at 5 am.
     
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    "A cosmic constant known as the ‘golden ratio’ is said to be found in the shape of hurricanes, elephant tusks and even in galaxies.
    Now researchers say this ratio is also seen in the topology of space-time, affecting the entire universe as a whole.
    And they say this number can be used to link everything in the universe together, from space-time to chemistry to biology.
    South African researchers have claimed that the universe is governed by a 'golden ratio'. They say space-time itself is defined by this mathematical constant. The ratio - 1.618 - is found across nature in plants, hurricanes and more (shown). But the researchers say it is also ever-present in the universe
    The research was carried out by Dr Jan Boeyens at the University of Pretoria and Dr Francis Thackeray of the University of the Witwatersrand in South Africa.
    They say the golden ratio - 1.618 - can be seen ‘related not only to aspects of mathematics but also to physics, chemistry, biology and the topology of space-time.’
    And it may dictate how certain things in the universe take shape.
    Fans of Dan Brown's The Da Vinci Code will remember when the protagonist Professor Langton explains how mathematics and art collide via the 'golden ratio.'
    For those who haven't read the populist thriller, it is the number 1.618 which has been plucked from the famous Fibonacci sequence.
    In this sequence each number is the sum of the previous two, so it beings 0, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34. If you take two successive numbers their ratio is very close to 1.618.
    This isn't that impressive on its own. Until you realise that this ratio is the key to everything from encrypting computer data, to the numbers of spirals on a sunflower head, our own limbs and why the Mona Lisa is so pleasing to the eye.
    Some have argued that because the sequence seems to grow in an 'organic' way, the golden ratio may play a part in nature.
    The ratio of 1.618 has already been found externally all over the human body. It usually marks the proportion of your hand to your forearm as well as the distance between your three knuckles on each finger.
    The spiral numbers in a sunflower will always total a Fibonacci number, while dividing those pointing right and left will give you two consecutive Fibonacci numbers linked by the ratio 1.68. These spiral patterns are also found in pineapples, cauliflowers and pine cones.
    The golden ratio, represented by the Greek letter 'phi', is said to be is a mathematical connection between two aspects of an object.
    It can be artificially used – for example, some 20th century artists used it for the rectangular shape of their portraits from the long side to the short side.
    They believed that the ratio created an aesthetically pleasing appearance.
    But the ratio is not just artificially created – it is apparently found through nature in the stems of plants, skeletons of animals and so on.
    And the shape of spirals also seem to follow the golden ratio. This suggests that geometric shapes in the universe ultimately succumb to this mathematical property.
    ‘A convincing case for assuming a cosmic character of the golden ratio can be made based on the ubiquity of logarithmic spirals,’ the researchers write.
    ‘Spectacular examples include the Whirlpool Galaxy (M51), ammonites, the shape of Nautilus shells, Hurricane Katrina and the distribution of planets, moons, asteroids and rings in the solar system.’
    The researchers suggest that the reason that this ratio is so ubiquitous is that it is actually a property of space-time.
    ‘The argument that this amazing consilience (self-similarity) arises from a common environmental constraint, which can only be an intrinsic feature of curved space-time, is compelling,’ they write.
    ‘The time has come to recognise that relativity and quantum theories can be integrated, and linked numerically to the value of a mathematical constant - whether in the context of space-time or biology’
    Quite why the universe follows this rule, however, is not known.
    Some think that our fine-tuned universe is simply a lucky coincidence and, under the multiverse theory, there are an infinite number of other universes that were not quite so lucky."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2862243/Is-space-time-shaped-like-SPIRAL-Universe-golden-ratio-keeps-order-researchers-claim.html#ixzz3L2MpSmi0
     
  11. CAC

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    Hmm...not a new idea for sure. Plenty of merit, however, possibly taken too far out of convenience....it does suit itself to structures, however, form fits function, not form fits a mathematical constant...it uses it instead to build the form. This is all too theoretical to be carved in stone just yet...if what they are saying is true they should also be able to explain pretty much all the remaining questions correctly and quickly...I'll wait for that...
     
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    Cool!...we are lucky people...
     
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    Poppy grasshopper

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    We have plenty of info on Uranus. Don't make us use it.
    Love, North Korea
     
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    1.618 is the new 3.14.
    Fascinating. Numbers have meaning. Some folk don't like to hear that.
     
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    "The inexorable tick of time moving forward is something that has PUZZLED scientists for more than a century.
    But now a new THEORY has been PROPOSED that may help answer some questions - at least with regards to the beginning of time and what happened in the 'past'.
    They say that at the moment of the Big Bang a 'MIRROR universe' to our own was created that moves in the opposite direction through time - and intelligent beings in each one would perceive the other to be moving backwards through time.
    The radical theory was proposed by Dr Julian Barbour of COLLEGE Farm in the UK, Dr Tim Koslowski of the University of New Brunswick in Canada and Dr Flavio Mercati of the Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, also in Canada.
    Their research attempts to answer questions that remain about the ‘arrow of time’ - which is the concept that time is ‘symmetric’ and everything moves forwards.
    They say that at the time of the Big Bang not one but two universes formed – both moving equally in each direction through time, but opposite to each other."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2868238/Did-Big-Bang-create-mirror-universe-time-moves-BACKWARDS-New-theory-explain-past-future.html#ixzz3LVbNbsed
     
  17. Takao

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    Big Deal!

    Red Dwarf called it back in 1989
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EahHThBjDB0
     
  18. CAC

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    And both wrong...
     
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    Nah, think I'll stick with the normal version.
    "Earth’s true colour has been revealed in amazing detail by a Japanese weather satellite.
    From a distance of 22,240 miles (35,790km), the satellite shows what our planet looks like before any filters or image enhancements are made to the shot.
    And the incredibly high resolution image also highlights stunning details on Earth including clouds, oceans and Australia’s vast desert.
    The image was taken by Japan’s Himawari-8 weather satellite, which launched on 7 October 2014 and is said to be the first true-colour image returned by the satellite to Earth.
    A huge 11,000 by 11,000 pixel version is available on the Japan Meteorological Agency's (JMA) website, although the makes advise downloading the file, rather than view it in a browser, because the image can take a long time to load.
    The satellite was placed in a geostationary orbit above Earth, which means it stays above the same portion of the planet - in this case Australia, Japan and the other regions seen.
    The instrument used to take the image was the Advanced Himawari Imager (AHI) on the spacecraft.
    Himawari-8 is actually one of two twin satellites that will be used to provide continuous observation of the East Asia and Western Pacific regions. The next satellite, called Himawari-9, will launch in 2016.
    The use of the words ‘true colour’ is a little bit of a misnomer, as this is not exactly what the planet would look like to the human eye.
    Most images we see of Earth are colour-corrected to show how humans would see them. This image, however, was taken in multiple bands and shows the natural appearance of Earth from space."
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2883739/The-GREY-planet-True-colour-image-reveals-Earth-really-looks-like-space-without-filters-editing.html#ixzz3MgdR5Hnv
     
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    We have not one but 10 deserts in Australia...

    Great Victoria Desert
    Great Sandy Desert
    Tanami Desert
    Simpson Desert
    Gibson Desert
    Little Sandy Desert
    Strezelecki Desert
    Sturt Stony Desert
    Tirari Desert and....Pedrika Desert
     

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